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Johnny Gioeli suing Sega over Live & Learn

Discussion in 'General Sonic Discussion' started by The Joebro64, Dec 18, 2024.

  1. Snub-n0zeMunkey

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    I never imagined Trent Reznor as a fan of Donkey Kong Country but hey anything's possible in this crazy world I guess lmao
     
  2. Captain L

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    It's finally time for him to get his hundred million dollars in royalties that he's owed.
     
  3. Black Squirrel

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    Well hang on, it's not exactly used prominently outside of Sonic Adventure 2 - in a lot of cases it's either used late game, or as part of an unlockable thing, or places you might not think to look, like Super Smash Bros..

    I don't think it's unreasonable to not know this - even our wiki doesn't list all the known uses (someone should fix that).
     
  4. The Joebro64

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    You'd be surprised. There's a pretty funny story about Paul McCartney finding out Koji Kondo was at one of his concerts, tracking him down, and pulling him backstage so he could gush to him about how much he loved the Super Mario Bros. soundtrack.
     
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  5. Bluebobo

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    I remember a comment, don't know where, don't know when (but i'm guessing before 2024, maybe around when team sonic racing was being released?) in a casual conversation online with a fan, johnny mentioned he has not seen a single dime of royalties from sega.
    So technically, he has heard about it before all this. (then again, it's my word, from a source i don't even remember)
    edit: oh my god, spelling mistakes, typos, can't think and type for shit.
     
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  6. Overlord

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    Imagine if Sega decided as a result of this to stop using Live and Learn for anything.

    The sheer reaction from the fanbase.
     
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  8. The Joebro64

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    I have heard from an anonymous source that future Sonic Adventure 2 rereleases will be using the following music as the final boss theme
     
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    Especially since the suit itself even gives a list upload_2024-12-19_0-35-8.png
     
  10. Overlord

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    I knew someone would post something like this, which is why I went back and forth on including a spoiler section noting I actually quite like the song (best version of SA2 is the OST release, sorry not sorry). I decided not to in the end as the post's content isn't about me; apparently I had too much faith.
     
  11. BlackHole

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    Does SEGA actually own Sonic? With how many ownership lawsuits they end up in, I would not be surprised if not...
     
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  13. Solid SOAP

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    Was it actually, or just an educated guess?
     
  14. Chimpo

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    I think SEGA was facing the barrel of a loaded gun until Isao Okawa saved them. I'm just pulling that out my ass from faulty memory. Someone smarter will surely correct.
     
  15. Kilo

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    Ah, seems that's another myth I've fallen for. I tried looking for a source on that but sure enough there was nothing to verify it. I guess with the Dreamcast coming to an end with SA2 it would generally be assumed that Sonic and Sega would end with it.
     
  16. Fadaway

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    I hate that song so I am not sure how to feel about this.
     
  17. Linkabel

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    Yeah, by January 2001 they had already announced Sonic Advance, on August 2001 they were already hinting that the Battle port was coming. From the January 2004 Nintendo Power Issue with Iizuka it seems Heroes development started in April/May 2002 since he mentions the game was almost 20 months in development by that time.

    So it does seem that it's a myth that was around in the internet and in some magazines at the time. Unless there was a brief period where they thought it was game over.
     
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  18. Yea, but it'd be funny.
     
  19. HEDGESMFG

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    Imagine if Sega...

    Cuts it out of the film before it even hits home video/streaming...

    P.S. Sega totally still should have the right to this version, right guys?
     
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  20. The Joebro64

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    The Polygon article notes that Paramount licensed Live and Learn through Gioeli, so they don't seem to have anything to worry about. Gioeli's filing also doesn't list the movie (though it does list Sonic X)