Interesting behind-the-scenes info on AOSTH

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  1. SonikkuForever

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    Gathering information on Sega World Sydney and collecting Sonic merchandise.
    One of my favorite pastimes when I get bored is surfing Google's news archives for old Sonic -related newspaper articles from the 90s. Today, I found <a href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ZV4zAAAAIBAJ&sjid=mAcGAAAAIBAJ&pg=6898,3061547&dq=sonic+the+hedgehog+cartoon&hl=en" target="_blank">an article from 1992</a> that mentioned some policies that DIC followed at the time regarding the storylines of their cartoons, including Sonic. During this time period, there was a bit of a fuss in the cartoon industry over the "appropriateness" of some children's shows. DIC decided that they wanted to set a good example and so collaborated with national education organizations to develop a twelve-point code to guide their writers to develop "child-friendly" programming. Five of those points are:

    -Storylines should enhance self-esteem and foster cooperative behavior.

    -Dangerous stunts that can be imitated by children should be avoided.
    (Later in the article, it is mentioned that this is only a problem with human characters because kids don't seem to imitate talking animals.)

    -Conflict situations should be resolved using dialogue, negotiation, and meditation.

    -Anti-social behavior should not be portrayed as glamorous or acceptable.

    -Violent behavior should only be shown when the dangerous and negative consequences are clearly and realistically depicted.

    I found this interesting because"Sonic Sez" seems out-of-place, and now I think that it was probably slapped on to ensure the show meets the guidelines. Do you think that DIC did a good job following the guidelines for the rest of the show? I don't, and frankly, I'm not sure I would want to watch Sonic and Robotnik settling their conflicts with "meditiation". (Did they mean <I>mediation</I>?)
     
  2. Sik

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    The chances of a kid entering in conflict with a villian that can build an army (even if as silly as Robotnik's robots) are pretty much null, so I don't think there would be much point in trying to solve things peacefully there, right? Besides, Sonic <I>does</I> do it in other situations, and let's be fair, everybody knew what Sonic was about so there was no point in trying something else.
     
  3. Interesting find, but I think this universally applies to both Sonic cartoons. The article wasn't specific on which Sonic cartoon they were referring to.
     
  4. DigitalDuck

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    <!--quoteo(post=477049:date=Jul 9 2010, 11:18 PM:name=A Knothole Resident)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (A Knothole Resident @ Jul 9 2010, 11:18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=477049"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Interesting find, but I think this universally applies to both Sonic cartoons. The article wasn't specific on which Sonic cartoon they were referring to.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    "Both"?
     
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    <!--quoteo(post=477050:date=Jul 9 2010, 05:26 PM:name=DigitalDuck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DigitalDuck @ Jul 9 2010, 05:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=477050"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=477049:date=Jul 9 2010, 11:18 PM:name=A Knothole Resident)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (A Knothole Resident @ Jul 9 2010, 11:18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=477049"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Interesting find, but I think this universally applies to both Sonic cartoons. The article wasn't specific on which Sonic cartoon they were referring to.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    "Both"?
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    I think he's referring to SatAM, and I agree to some extent, as I do remember several episodes encouraging protection of the environment.
     
  6. Quarterman

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    <!--quoteo(post=477050:date=Jul 9 2010, 03:26 PM:name=DigitalDuck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DigitalDuck @ Jul 9 2010, 03:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=477050"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=477049:date=Jul 9 2010, 11:18 PM:name=A Knothole Resident)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (A Knothole Resident @ Jul 9 2010, 11:18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=477049"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Interesting find, but I think this universally applies to both Sonic cartoons. The article wasn't specific on which Sonic cartoon they were referring to.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    "Both"?
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    You know, SatAm and AoSTH? They were both made by the same company. This wasn't just imposed on DIC. The Spider-man cartoon faced limitations as well. This included a no guns rule and forbidding them from having Spider-Man actually punch someone (although they did break that rule on occasion). The 1990's, the years that the crazies took control.
     
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    <!--quoteo(post=477063:date=Jul 10 2010, 12:01 AM:name=quarterman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (quarterman @ Jul 10 2010, 12:01 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=477063"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You know, SatAm and AoSTH? They were both made by the same company.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You know, Sonic Underground? That was made by the same company too.
     
  8. Quarterman

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    Sonic Underground doesn't count and we therefore shouldn't ever speak it's cursed name again. Besides, the restrictions weren't as tight at that point. At least, I don't recall a "Sonic Sez" equivalent on that show.

    EDIT: How the hell did I spell "count" wrong?!
     
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    <!--quoteo(post=477065:date=Jul 10 2010, 12:08 AM:name=quarterman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (quarterman @ Jul 10 2010, 12:08 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=477065"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sonic Underground doesn't cont and we therefore shouldn't ever speak it's cursed name again. Besides, the restrictions weren't as tight at that point. At least, I don't recall a "Sonic Sez" equivalent on that show.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah, I suppose you're right about that. I suppose there wasn't any need for one, considering there's practically nothing going on in the cartoon other than bad music and a drawn-out "WAAAH! I LOST MY MOMMY!" plot.
     
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    <!--quoteo(post=477064:date=Jul 9 2010, 06:03 PM:name=DigitalDuck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DigitalDuck @ Jul 9 2010, 06:03 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=477064"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=477063:date=Jul 10 2010, 12:01 AM:name=quarterman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (quarterman @ Jul 10 2010, 12:01 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=477063"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You know, SatAm and AoSTH? They were both made by the same company.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You know, Sonic Underground? That was made by the same company too.
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    But that's not what AKR or Quarterman are concerned with -- they believe the education rule reached further into SatAM, which could have been conceptualized during the year AoSTH was announced.

    SoUnd I believe was conceptualized as early as '96 (maybe later than that), far later than this article was written.

    [EDIT] From the wiki:

    "During the run up to the launch of the Dreamcast, Sega heavily advertised all their big products. For Sonic, they contacted DiC, who previously made both SatAM and Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, to make a new Sonic cartoon. Due to low popularity, Sonic Underground ran for only one season, 1998 to 1999. Since then, the show could be found on UPN's weekday morning lineup but eventually was taken off the air to make way for new programming. "

    So it was later than '96, then.
     
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    Obviously these were rules implemented by executives who believed parenting your kids through a cartoon was a good idea. Interesting how they wanted to broaden awareness about the environment when the cels they used to shoot the show could be potentially hazardous to it. I doubt anyone took Sonic Sez seriously. Kids either forgot all about it, or made YouTube Poops.

    What a bunch of idiots.


    <!--quoteo(post=477032:date=Jul 9 2010, 05:11 PM:name=SonikkuForever)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SonikkuForever @ Jul 9 2010, 05:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=477032"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I don't, and frankly, I'm not sure I would want to watch Sonic and Robotnik settling their conflicts with "meditiation". (Did they mean <I>mediation</I>?)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Probably not, these rules were most likely instated by hippies.
     
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    if I remember correctly, there was legislature at some point that dictated cartoons follow such 'informatinal' guidelines. I could be mistaken however
     
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    Come to think of it, I don't think any of Spielberg's cartoons followed informational guidelines, other than Histeria, but that cartoon aired in '98.

    Otherwise, I think pretty much every kids' cartoon block during that era followed those guidelines somehow, at least concerning shows made in America, since I'm sure Samurai Pizza Cats wasn't educational.
     
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    <!--quoteo(post=477095:date=Jul 9 2010, 09:03 PM:name=Blue Emerald)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Blue Emerald @ Jul 9 2010, 09:03 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=477095"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Come to think of it, I don't think any of Spielberg's cartoons followed informational guidelines...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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    If they didn't, could've fooled me.
     
  15. Quarterman

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    <!--quoteo(post=477079:date=Jul 9 2010, 05:10 PM:name=Dude)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dude @ Jul 9 2010, 05:10 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=477079"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->if I remember correctly, there was legislature at some point that dictated cartoons follow such 'informatinal' guidelines. I could be mistaken however<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No legislation exists for the cartoons themselves, but there is an act that requires major channels to set aside certain hours toward educational children's programming. In fact, this act is the only thing that keeps Saturday morning cartoons on certain channels at all. Rather sad, really.
     
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    In the spirit of Sonic Sez and my childhood, that's what I did for Sonic's 19th birthday.
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    Aw man, kind of unrelated, but maybe this is why it took DBZ so long to fully come out in the states. Just a thought.
     
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    Isn't it called edutainment now?

    Nice video btw ;)
     
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