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Greg Martin Sonic 2 prelim (not mine) recent private sale

Discussion in 'General Sonic Discussion' started by Buyatari, Jul 9, 2018.

  1. I know you guys like seeing these things. This one is not mine (was not the buyer nor seller) but recently traded hands.

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  2. McAleeCh

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    Ooh, nice - thanks for sharing! Great to see an in-progress version of this iconic piece - one of my favourite pieces of western Sonic cover-art. Tails with skin-coloured fur is something I've not seen since those old... what were they, Burger King or McDonald's toys? Wonder if there's a connection, haha - can't remember which year those were produced.
     
  3. VectorCNC

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    Wow, so cool!

    Buyatari, how does one become informed when this sort of thing goes up for sale? And how/why are you in possession of so much of this artwork?
     
  4. Overlord

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    Not the Sonic christmas crackers figurines? Tails had flesh-coloured fur in the prototype shot of those.
     
  5. I'll start off by saying again that I was not the buyer or the seller. This particular piece was never mine.
    The video game art that I do have comes from getting a head start on most other buyers.

    As for how to keep an eye on the video game art marketplace, I would recommend this group on facebook.
    Closed group so you have to be a member to see posts.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/502536466816380/
     
  6. Pengi

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    Not just the prototypes, the final figures had that colouring too.
     
  7. Adamis

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    I've often thought that the skin colored Tails pictures were influenced by the Sonic 2 manga...

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  8. McAleeCh

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    Nah, after a bit of Googling I found the one I was thinking of - it's the one seen in this picture:

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    Apparently a 1993 Burger King kids' meal toy, so I guess my memory was better than I thought! Even at the young age I was back then, it still bothered me his fur colour was wrong, haha. XD
     
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  10. Overlord

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    Oh, right. They were more extreme in the protos, though.
     
  11. Black Squirrel

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    It's unlikely this particular manga did much influencing - you'd expect Sega of America to be leading the way for Sonic 2 and 3. In fact, Tails looks as if he's been nabbed from some Warner Bros. cartoon (the cheapo ones from the 1960s) - like they only had a vague description of the character to work with.


    This Greg Martin painting is probably the first to use the wrong colours, and I would imagine licensors copied it from there.
     
  12. Adamis

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    It would still be a strange coïncidence that this manga has a Tails with a color scheme that was used later by the US merchandising... and let's not forget the brown Tails from the nineties cartoons.
     
  13. ICEknight

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    Can't be just a coincidence... It's very likely that Tails' prototype design did have that color scheme and then that merchandise and artwork was made from SEGA's rushed orders.

    Thanks for sharing it, Buyatari!
     
  14. Endgame

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    That's a bit odd, the picture I had of them of Tails definitely had a very brown colour for his fur:
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  15. Pengi

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    Yeah, it's not unusual for promotional photos to have prototypes. The Sonic and Robotnik figures’ eyes are a bit off too.
     
  16. ICEknight

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    Damn, that almost looks like you-know-who:
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    Isn't it possible to draw a character using Ray's color scheme with the first in-game palette from Sonic 1? Because, now that I think of it, that might have been their starting point and those crazy colors would make sense.


    EDIT: Oh and speaking of tan fur, we cannot forget about this:
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  17. Pengi

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    Another bit of early Tails weirdness.

    The Kellogg's Frosties Spinner (yoyo) was packaged in a box labelled "Two Tails":

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    (I can confirm that's how they arrived.) A little odd, but on its own probably not significant.

    HOWEVER. This Burger King Kids Club hanger (with the off-colour Tails) also calls him "Two Tails". Any other Two Tails sightings?
     
  18. Black Squirrel

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    I have seen "Two Tails" in some of the gaming magazines, but didn't give it much thought. Check the very early stuff when Sonic 2 was announced.

    I have a vague timeline in my head about when Sonic 2 information was released, but it's very possible they showed the character before telling us his name. I wish we had press releases from that era.
     
  19. Pengi

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    A fan posted this in the SEGA Retro Gamers Facebook group:

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    How deep does this rabbit hole go?
     
  20. This is Greg Martin as well.
    However, on the original painting he has white fur. Sega must have changed it.
     
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