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Discussion in 'Sonic 2 HD (Archive)' started by Vangar, Mar 8, 2008.

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  1. RedStripedShoes

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    Why am I suddenly reminded of the downloading bar from Windows?
     
  2. RAMPKORV

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    What's the reason for all the secrecy regarding this project?

    As a member of Sonic Retro, I'd like to hear (a good) explaination of why it'd be in the best interest of this community project that there is no transparency regarding the engine development. Why is it better for this project to keep everybody who is not a member of an inner elite from taking part in anything else than supplying art and music on the elite's demands?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  3. steveswede

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    I have to kind of agree with that. While I trust the fact that this project will be completed. I've seen very little these few weeks from the main artists. I would like to see more up-to-date artwork or "transparency" as it was put.

    Not only that. Today's the day for the big announcement. Unless you live in Hawaii where the time zone is nearly a 24 hours later to what you get in Australia, I keep wondering what's with the hold up. it's 16:50 where I am. If there is going to be nothing announced then please let us know.
     
  4. Gambit

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    We're gonna have a little get together and we'll post the update after that. It'll be a few hours yet.
     
  5. RedStripedShoes

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    Forgive us if we've been rude, but you know that we're all wet with anticipation from the upcoming reveal, and it's getting harder to hold back.
     
  6. MaximusDM

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  7. Canned Karma

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    Well, thanks for ruining the surprise. Show's over folks, back to your business.

    Like Gambit said, we're in the process of getting... various things together right now for you guys. Don't worry, it will be today, like we said. Just a little later in the day is all.
     
  8. steveswede

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    There some true words in there.
     
  9. GerbilSoft

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    I have to echo what RAMPKORV said about transparency. This quote alone demonstrates how little the S2HD team cares about having anyone else actually help with the design of the program. If you don't want this to be a community project and instead only want designated "elite" members to be working on the project, that's fine. Just don't advertise it as a "community" project.
     
  10. Canned Karma

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    I sincerely hope you didn't think I was serious about that first part.
     
  11. Mad Echidna

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    I'm inclined to agree as well. What makes this project any different from any of the various hacks and fan games in E&E?
     
  12. GerbilSoft

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    No, my comment was about the second part of your reply.
     
  13. nineko

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    Nothing. Maybe there are actually some hacks out there with more contributors than S2HD.
     
  14. Canned Karma

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    Quite possibly so. And we wish them the best in their efforts. The number of contributors a project has doesn't correlate to the level of polish it has; the level of talent put into it does. What sets us apart is the commitment our staff has to a quality product. The alpha will serve as functional backup to that end.
     
  15. Conan Kudo

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    When I first arrived in Sonic Retro, I thought the Sonic 2 HD project had some huge promise. I even participated in finding a bug and squashing it. However, as time passed, I haven't really seen anything new come out of the project in over a year. No tidbits of information about the engine or anything. The poll about the renderer was supposed to have been terminated in June of that year. I don't know if it did terminate or not, but since then, no new information has been released.

    As a community project, I would have expected that information would be more free flowing, but maybe my perceptions of community projects have been skewed by all the open source projects I've participated in. That's mainly why I hadn't said anything before. But with other people feeling the same way, I felt that maybe I should say something.

    Personally, I'd like to see the S2HD game engine open sourced, but I don't think that would happen, given the attitude towards open source that most of Sonic Retro seems to have...
     
  16. Tweaker

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    I think you might be confusing general open source of projects done from scratch with open-sourcing certain segments of hacks, which is much less common for an entirely different reason. I can't imagine why anyone would be against the open-sourcing of Sonic 2 HD, though LOst is certainly entitled to the privacy of his own engine if he pleases. It doesn't exactly help the community involvement aspect of the project, though.
     
  17. Conan Kudo

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    Not with all the aspects. But if there are issues or if people want to contribute more platform support code, it is generally easier that way. Also, making packages for Linux distributions is easier with source code. Ehh.

    My biggest issue is that we haven't really heard a peep from the project heads in nearly a year. I'd like to know more about what's going on with the project, but sometimes I think the project has simply degenerated into arguments, like the Retro Sonic project did, simply because that is mostly what I see in discussions nowadays.... Maybe I'm wrong, but I just wanted to say it.
     
  18. Mad Echidna

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    You still seem to be missing the point.

    Point A. This project is the only project on the entire site with it's own sub-forum, and it is in the "Community Projects" category.

    Point B. Sonic 2 HD is not a community project. This has been established by Gerbilsoft, Nineko, and even implied by two project members in this thread.

    Therefore, either this project is mis-categorized and needs to be dealt with, or, if you guys still want this to be a "community project", there needs to be some transparency.
     
  19. Hamneggs

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    So, has the announcement been made yet? :words:
     
  20. LOst

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    We are still partying. Expect late hours. Much alcohol.
     
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