Do you think a Sonic Adventure Remake is a good idea?

I'm on the opposite end of it. Getting into the special stage was usually a good test of level knowledge and while I don't like every special stage Sonic Mania and Sonic 3 had pretty satisfying arcade style bonus games that felt like you could master them in the same way you could the base gameplay. When the series dropped the entire mechanical side of things, even the alternate dimension angle and just made them like every other macguffin they felt a lot more disposable. You might as well actually just throw the dragon balls in there.

I'm not a huge advocate for your access to the last chapter being tied to minigames, fun as I think it is, but associating them with some kind of challenge is better than doing nothing imo.

 

I didn't exactly mind the Emeralds being 'out in the open' in Adventure 1's case. It was the series' first (successfully released) fully 3D foray and the emphasis on story/lite RPG elements probably made them difficult to squeeze in. Chaos also plays a pretty integral role in the story and a lot of the story centers around Chaos grabbing the Emeralds before the heroes, which ends up giving Chaos some sort of cool transformation.

From a gameplay standpoint, this transformation usually results in a pretty fun boss fight that feels completely mechanically different from the previous Chaos form before it (and some are exclusive to a particular character's route). It's also a more visually interesting payoff slowly watching Chaos physically alter into larger forms and become less human-esque in design, whereas the later 3D titles that rely on the Emeralds to drive the narrative don't have such a 'visual payoff'. The Eclipse Cannon in Adventure 2 is essentially useless until the villains obtain all 7 Emeralds. While the Eclipse Cannon is briefly used prior to this, the threat that provides is...pretty quickly downplayed (and essentially non-existent on the Dark Route - the game just kinda jumps to Eggman pounding on a computer with some exposition explaining why he's upset).

Assuming they ever did do an Adventure remake, I'd go the full re-imagining route just because I think tweaking the script could allow for a 'Chaos 3' or maybe the potential for the story scripts to slightly divert depending on player action, which might drive up replay value on the shorter campaigns perhaps. Something like a silly dialog tree and that determining who fights who in something like the leadup to Chaos 4 might be fun, but that's me just kinda spitballing ideas and less 'Would this actually be fun in execution'.

I'd argue doing all the Stories was sort of the 'challenge' Sonic Team had in mind in Adventure 1 and 2's case. You have to master a new gameplay style in the former, at least. Adventure 2 I guess doesn't really force you to master a new gameplay style, but rather asks you participate in all of the regular gameplay stages before it let's you see the real finale.

 

I actually do agree with you in regards to the dimension angle. I absolutely love how there were these weird places that are connected to the emeralds, it's so distinct. Maybe there can be a nice middle ground, like the characters travelling to the strange dimensions to further the story, instead of being optional minigames. No limits for level gimmicks, too.

 

Thank you! but for what its worth, its been happening long enough that its just sadly something i accept being the case a lot of the time. i am just at least glad that on pc a lot of the time i can refund a game if it's something i can't play (and seemingly can do that on xbox too).

i also have a blue lighter filter on my glasses which helps, and i try to be in a well lit room + adjust the brightness and contrast on my tv and monitor to be much lower, so that i can handle things. it's manageable, but unfortunately if i'm hit with something really bad visually, it's enough to take me out for the entire day with the world's worst migraine or even worse.

i also try to avoid interacting with any possibly visually intense media (video games, shows/movies) if i'm feeling really tired as that greatly puts me at far more risk. if i have a migraine, or if im sleepy but still want to do something before going to bed, i'll usually just read on my kindle instead (e-ink really is amazing for when you have a migraine).

it'd be nice to see more publishers push for better qol and photosensitivity features in gaming (microsoft and nintendo are both really good at it, fwiw), and it is good to see that sega are at least making changes to the gamegear games in Origins Plus and i hope they continue to do more.

 

I'm all for accessibility options for photosensitive people, but please make them optional. What Sega did with the Game Gear games is not the way to go.

 

Yeah what I’m calling for is 100% optional ways to make the game more bearable but also allowing the original game to be present too.

 

!! i just found by chance a sort of random interview with SEGA that was published today. i don't see anything about it yet on Retro or Sonic Stadium.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgnj7e8028o

Bringing Sega back

Shuji Utsumi spoke to the BBC ahead of the premiere of the film Sonic 3 on Saturday, after a year in which he oversaw the launch of Metaphor: ReFantazio, Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth, and the latest Sonic the Hedgehog game.

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He said the firm now simply must "make a great game" in the series.

"The next one is going to be a quite challenging, quite exciting game that we are working on," he said.

But he would not divulge whether Sega was considering a follow up to the much-loved Sonic Adventure series.

"Sonic Adventure was kind of a game-changer for Sonic," he said.

"When we release it, it should be good, it should be impressive - we need to meet or even exceed people's expectations, so it takes some time."

Part of the series which fans have been clamouring to see return is the Chao Garden - a much-loved virtual pet synonymous with Sonic Adventure.

Mr Utsumi said "we've been talking about it" - but would not go into further detail, only that he could not "say too much about it".

 

the problem with making stuff like this optional is that people don't know if they will react to photosensitivity with a seizure until they actually have one. So it's unnecessarily risky to even have the option, there are people for whom toggling that option on might be dangerous for them without them even knowing.

 

Personally, I think everyone should be confined to a 1x1m glass box and never allowed to leave just in case someone gets hurt.

 

I cant believe there are people actually arguing against seizure safety measures. I thought that was like the one retroactive change everyone agreed was good

 

What I don’t understand about Sega - is, why not make a multiple versions of Sonic and the games associated with that character?

We have a shitton of Mario’s, who even get crossovers. Why can’t we have classic Sonic, modern Sonic and Adventure! Sonic? We even had Boom for awhile, with a spin on a gameplay.

Go, get Mania team or some other talented people, give them chance to make a masterpiece, the Sonic Adventure 3 we all want, and let the flamewars begin.

 

If everyone experienced seizures from bright flashes, sure. But far from everyone does.

 

Don't most games have a seizure warning on the back of their boxes? I feel like that legally covers your ass enough. Might just be a North America/Canada thing though.

 

Many video game systems also show a warning about photoepilepsy when turning them on.

 

If you can not have seizure warnings because you're actually adhering to safety standards instead of slapping a warning on a box, why keep strobing lights that don't really enhance any aspect of the game at all? I can't imagine what good can come out of not employing seizure safety standards as a rule. With the Game Gear games you might argue it was different and better before and, while it's debatable anyway, it doesn't apply to any new game. Even a remake. You don't know what that'd be like without the standard. It's just there.

 

He's right.

 

Having had a quick read I don't think people understand what they're actually saying when they say "I want the flashing removed". I'm all in for libertarianism and would prefer to play the original but have any of you played Devilish on the Game Gear??? That game had nearly three seconds worth of strobing and the only reason it was tolerated is because the LCD was blurry. On an emulator that shit's eye melting

 

Someone is doing a fan game remake of Sonic Adventure 2 in Unreal and it actually looks fairly solid - especially given the less-than-stellar reputation Unreal projects have, haha. It's obviously still rough around the edges and clearly a fan effort, but it's not a million miles off from what I'd picture a remake from Sega looking like.