"Do my work for me!" (Pre-Alpha footage of Sonic & Cra

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  1. LajosFace

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    Hello guys,
    Yesterday, I opened a topic about the need of supporters (artists) who can make cutscenes for me for the Sonic & Crash: Dimension Disaster because I can't draw really much good. To prove the existence of the mod, here is some pre-alpha footage of my work:
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    I really hope you appreciate my project and contact me at this e-mail address ([email protected]) to be a volunteer making this happen (yes, I can't pay for it, because I'm only 15).
    Best regards,
    LajosFace (WaG_Gaming)
     
  2. 360

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    I....should probably be nice to you because you're only 15 but dude - this thread isn't much of an improvement to your last one and Overlord's just going to come in here and lock this.

    To give you some helpful advice that's a bit more reasoned - you don't have sufficient progress yet. This looks like five minutes of work. It's basically some images spliced together which anyone could come up with in two minutes in Paint. You need far more substantial progress to encourage more people to get on-board with this. Come back when you have more, and by more, I mean months of work.
     
  3. Black Squirrel

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    Let's be fair, he did exactly what Overlord said. In the most literal way possible.


    Anyway everyone starting their internet career makes a topic like this. Welcome to yours.
     
  4. Josh

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    You want to know how bad those screenshots are? When I came into this topic and looked at them, my first thought was that Overlord had hijacked OP's account and was having a laugh. They come across like a parody of a "do the work for me" topic.

    But yeah, as Black Squirrel said, this happens to everyone. When I was 13, I submitted nonsensical and unfunny MS Paint "hoaxes" to Sonic Vegemite, who fortunately never posted them, so at least there's no record.
     
  5. winterhell

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    Somewhat impressive the Crash sprites have no transparency. Must have taken balls to post these screenshots and be proud of them.
     
  6. 360

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    Well yeah, I do see where you guys are coming from - my first Sonic fangame posted on SFGHQ was "Sonic Crash", that had nothing to with Crash Bandicoot (just thought it was a cool name) that was literally static, non-scrolling Megadrive asset-ripped single screen level arenas with physics that were an abomination (platform movement for life yo) and I genuinely believed, at the age of 14 that I'd produced a masterpiece. Later Sonic fangames I created substantially improved and years later I worked on Chaomega. Hez showed off something similar recently by releasing "Sonic D" which is in another universe relative to the work he produces now with the excellent Sonic Classic series - so I do get where you guys are coming from, we were all at this stage at some point in early youth and everyone starts somewhere.

    So yeah I see what you guys mean. That said this is a recruitment topic, and I highly doubt anyone's going to be recruited here. Hence the presumption of the inevitable lock.
     
  7. sewer56lol

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    Hmm, since people seem to be up to posting their horrors made during the times of childhood, allow me to show you some of my own great abominations from the times of old(er).

    I was around 9 years of age when I made those and are just about as old as my nickname, which I've thought of changing a few times in the past (including on this board but alas that's a question for another time - and not something for trial members at that).

    Found those a while ago on a backup disc that I burned around 8 years ago or so, albeit some of these should still be on the web alright.

    Note: These are actually Worms Armageddon maps, made in none other than glorious MS Paint!
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    On the good side, the extremely young me got to play against this dude a few times, even on one of those abominations at that:
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  8. biggestsonicfan

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  9. LajosFace

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    Yeah, I know, I know: the sprites are really low quality ones, but I'm working on a palette change. But hey! What can you expect from a REALLY early version of the mod?
     
  10. winterhell

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    Expected a "rather close to a finished state"
     
  11. Blue Blood

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    As others have said, this is so early that it looks like you've spent little more than a couple of hours on this (and that's including the learning process). There's no reason that anyone would want to join your project at this stage. When you want people to join your team, you've got to demonstrate exactly what you can offer; that should showcase what you're able to do that's interesting or exciting. The animated movies that you want other people to produce will take a lot of hard work and skill, and yet it would be for a project that's barely begun.

    Finish your sprite work and palletes, create new levels and layouts and make changes to characters movesets before expecting anyone to want to join in. There's absolutely no reason for anyone to want to take part now.
     
  12. SoNick

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    Man, my shame was from around that same age; I made a "Sonic Fight" game in The Games Factory using (bad!) sprite edits for Sonic and Knuckles. There was "Ice Knuckles" and "Fire Knuckles" and the same for Sonic. They fired recolored Green Hill wrecking balls at each other. I was certain that I'd come up with a "genius" method of fitting controls for four players on a single keyboard, splitting a single keyboard into four sections with controls for each player taking up about 1/4 of a keyboard each. I attempted to submit it to SFGHQ, but Rlan thankfully rejected it, with an e-mail criticizing several of the choices I'd made in making the game.
     
  13. Speeps

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    I'll bite with the bad sonic confessions: When I was 11 I tried making a Sonic RPG with an old RPGMaker. You started off as Sonic (using terribly resized sonic 3 sprites with no forward/backward walking animation) in his house in the middle of some village.

    If you walked around the house and looked in a nearby bucket you could find a raw fish that would heal you if you cooked it. If you made Sonic eat the fish raw though, he would get worms and the only way to cure him was to talk to a priest standing in the corner of Sonic's living room. Sonic could also get drunk if you sent him to the bar and gave him beer. His sprite would change into a goofier "drunk sonic" look and he'd walk around really slowly.

    The only part of the story I actually made was that Tails gave Sonic a quest to go get some bread, which involved traveling across the world map to find a tiny house with a chest in. When you got the bread and returned, Tails was dead and the village was covered in lava because Eggman and Weegee burned the entire place down while you were gone.

    All the files for it were on a laptop that broke years ago, so I don't have any of it anymore. I used to at least have the graphics from it, but then that laptop broke too. :argh:

    So I'm not entirely off topic here: I don't think there's anything to say about your project that hasn't been already said - it needs a lot more work before it's ready to be shown off. At the very least have all of the sprites correctly displayed and replaced, but I still don't think that alone would stand up.
     
  14. Shaddy the guy

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    Can I join? This was my midterm for a 3D class that I don't even know why I passed
     
  15. LajosFace

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    For everyone: stop joking, please. I'm really serious about the mod, I have the passion for it and now I figured out the correct colour palette for Crash's sprite. I really need passionate supporters who can draw images for Sonic 3D Blast-styled cutscenes. I'm working really hard to make it a quality mod and a really good, fresh, new and exciting experience. I really would like to make both of these fanbases happy with this mod. Don't underestimate me, even I'm only 15. And sorry for posting a really early version of this mod. I promise you I will make this mod into a Pre-Beta in weeks.
     
  16. CHRdutch

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    Wow, wow. You need to be careful with how you handle critisism. Because if you keep defending against it, you'll probably end up being a "Pending Approval" member.
    The members critising your work aren't here to demotivate you, they just are sharing their opinions towards your project, which needed a lot more work put in to it.

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    Really though, you should listen to that critisism instead of defending against it. Because what you are currently showing is not looking to great and needs a lot more work put into it.

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  17. Blue Blood

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    Listen - don't set yourself any arbitrary deadlines, and don't ask for help. Learn how to do what you want, and take the project slowly. Setting deadlines is just setting yourself up for failure. Asking people for help on something so early is asking to be mocked. Look around for a moment at some of the best fangames and mods based around Sonic. How many of those have animated cutscenes or even the "Sonic 3D Blast style cutscenes" that you want? You're asking for something huge, but you haven't got a project worth showing off yet, and definitely not something that other people would be interested in helping you out with. I don't mean to be rude, but this is the truth.

    Focus on the important stuff. It's going to take you several months at least to get your first project off the ground. Most projects fail in that time because people bite off more than they can chew and so find themselves way out of depth. Cutscenes don't matter at the early stages. The meat and bones of the mod, those being the levels, characters and graphics, do. Work on those. Having passion is great, but it won't get you very far. Just go and work in the project at your own pace. You'll probably find that you change your mind a thousand times about everything involved as you learn more and grow in expertise. Or, even more likely, you'll give up and either pick up this project or start another way off in the future. That's how these things go and it's all absolutely fine.

    Just to reiterate - nobody wants to see a pre-beta or pre-alpha. Those words mean "here's something I hobbled together as quickly as possible that doesn't represent the project I have in mind at all and instead showcases everything that I cannot do". Nobody cares to see that.
     
  18. LajosFace

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    OK, it means that I need to make my mod slowly. Because I want to make it good and even I would like to bring it to SHC, if the testers say this is the best crossover mod, maybe ever. But for now, I live for the today. I will make this myself, figuring out the things and learn the mechanics of making a mod. This thread will have closed until the mod is ready.
     
  19. Overlord

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    Good - we look forward to seeing your results - when they're ready to be shown. =P

    Aw, come on - even putting aside the fact that I can't do this anyway, I'm not that malicious. =P Locking the thread anyway, we're on something of a derail here.
     
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