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  1. Jan 19, 2004 #21
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    This is... weird! Very very weird. And, according to Fiz, this ain't a hack.
     
  2. Jan 19, 2004 #22
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    Sorry for double post.

    Well, I can't load up the savestate in Genecyst, so might that be the reason why It doesn't appear? Because all I did was go to Death Egg Zone and looked at the tiles. :\

    Also, if this helps: I had no game genie codes on at the time.
     
  3. Jan 19, 2004 #23
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    Would somebody please try this for themselves? People seem to be making a lot of assumptions without bothering to try it for themselves.
     
  4. Jan 19, 2004 #24
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    I tried it, and ended up with one hell of a glitchy mess. No spring monitors though. :(
     

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  5. Jan 19, 2004 #25
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    :\ I dunno what to say then... except for this is really fucked up.
     
  6. Jan 19, 2004 #26
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    No.
    What do you mean with these two sentences? Gens and Genecyst use the same format for the savestates, and both allow viewing the tiles.
    Let's put it this way, if it's not a hack it's a hoax, because the spring monitor graphics won't appear magically in a game where they don't exist. They're not even "hidden but not used", they're just not there because they were replaced by the teleport arrows.
     
  7. Jan 19, 2004 #27
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    What I meant was, that for some reason I can't open that savestate in genecyst. I've tried several times, but it just won't work. I know they use the same format, I just can't get it to work. It just refuses to work. (I'm probably doing something wrong, but meh)

    I swear to GOD this is not a hack or a hoax. I knew you guys would accuse me of it being a hack/hoax, but I posted it here anyway, hoping that someone could make sense of it.

    The only thing I can think of is that maybe the ROM is got is hacked...or it was an Emulator error. I just don't know.
     
  8. Jan 19, 2004 #28
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    I'm pretty sure it's a fake. I loaded the state and I saw and was able to place spring monitors, but if you die or reset the game with Start+A, you are no longer able to place spring monitors, but rather, the transporter monitors.
     
  9. Jan 19, 2004 #29
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    DAMNIT IT'S NOT FAKE. GARGH.

    I know that it turns back into transfer monitors once the game restarts. I just want to know what the spring monitor is doing there in the first place!

    I keep on trying to recreate the whole thing, but so far no luck. All I get is a jumbled up Death Egg Zone.
     
  10. Jan 19, 2004 #30
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    Where did you get this savestate?
     
  11. Jan 19, 2004 #31
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    I didn't get it from anywhere. I created it when the whole game got fucked up while playing it in Gens so I could show it to you guys.
     
  12. Jan 19, 2004 #32
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    Is there anything I can do to try and duplicate this, and also, would you be able to share the ROM you used with us?
     
  13. Jan 19, 2004 #33
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    I posted how it happened on Page 2, so you can make an attempt to duplicate te whole thing by looking at that. Good luck, because I haven't been able to recreate it.

    I got the ROM from the SonicStuff place that is listed in "Come here before you ask for ROMs" topic in the general sonic discussion. The Zip file is called " [SMD] Sonic the Hedgehog 2".
     
  14. Jan 19, 2004 #34
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    I think this is real *sees LOst looking at the topic and runs from another possible Eli White scenario*. But I don't see how this is hacked.
     
  15. Jan 19, 2004 #35
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    How many transport boxes would you guess you put down, and where exactly did you put them?
     
  16. Jan 19, 2004 #36
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    I put the boxes at the very beginning (in the hall leading to Silver Sonic.). I'm not for sure how many I put there, but I would say about 10-15 or so. I still can't get the same effects the happen, or anything similar to it. Meh.
     
  17. Jan 19, 2004 #37
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    Perhaps you inadvertently opened a proto savestate while running the final?

    That would make it not 'fake', not a 'hack', and not a 'hoax', but 'real'.
     
  18. Jan 19, 2004 #38
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    I already checked to see if that is what I did someone said that I might have loaded a corrupted savestate.

    I loaded ALL of my savestates while trying to recreate the whole thing, and nothing gave me that effect. I double checked with the two beta savestates (debug+levelselect savestate and lostenemies savestate) that I have, and nothing except for a frozen game.
     
  19. Jan 19, 2004 #39
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    I have done this before, but I didn't think it was important so I didn’t' post.

    Use Tile Layer Pro.

    Get a GCZ savestate from Sonic 2 beta.

    Get a DEZ savestate from Sonic 2.

    Open the GCZ and DEZ savestate.

    Go view then format, and change their format to genesis.

    On the GCZ savestate copy everything from where everything look somewhat normal down.

    And a paste one the DEZ savestate from where everything look somewhat normal down.
     
  20. Jan 20, 2004 #40
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    And thus, LocalH mentioned the last possibility before assuming that Fiz has a magical ROM.

    Unexistant graphics just can't appear from nowhere. No matter where you putz teh monitorz or do whatever you want. We're not dealing with magic, UFOs, the matrix or the Pope's toilet, this is something that can't happen without an external source with the needed graphics, because they don't exist in the Sonic 2 final ROM.
     
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