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  1. Vincent

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  2. zemulii

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    Looks like I timed my last post veeery badly, so I'll repost:

    <img src="http://i42.tinypic.com/307utd0.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    I've lightened up the cheek shading. Light enough?

    Also rounded the tip of the wing a bit (because it's not exactly pointy in most of the official artwork). Although it's hard to see here...
    The shape of the wing looks a little bit "off" now though I think... Not because of the roundedness, but because of what that change has done to the rest of it.
    Better or worse with the rounded wing? If it's better then I guess I'll probably need to adjust the rest of it a bit to match (I'm thinking - make the whole thing a bit more rounded).

    I realise one is slightly darker overall than the other. I have to darken it each time to suit the game colours more, so I didn't quite get them the same.

    By the way, the forums are looking very tidy ;). Doesn't look like there's much room for confusion.
     
  3. Vincent

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    Looks much better Zemulii!
    As a concept I can see room for improvement on legs, then it's ready for revectoring & animation. ;)
    Having HTZ's goals as priority, mind to take a shot on <a href="http://sanik.hacking-cult.org/inker/entity.php?section=Characters&entity=Hawk" target="_blank">Hawk</a>?
     
  4. zemulii

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    I might have a go at the Hawk next then. Is there no official art for it though (sounds like quite a challenge)?

    About the legs, is there anything specific that needs a change? Maybe toes like in the official art? It's mainly because I've limited myself from the beginning by working so small that I left them out! But I'm sure I can add them in if they're necessary.
     
  5. test-object

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    <img src="http://info.sonicretro.org/images/c/c3/Locky.PNG" border="0" class="linked-image" />
    Official Art for Locky the Eagle ^^

    EDIT: fine, ICEknight :3
     
  6. ICEknight

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    Just a small clarification...
    <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawk" target="_blank">Hawk.</a>
    <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald_Eagle" target="_blank">Bald Eagle.</a>


    EDIT: As for this awesome piece of chicken:
     
  7. zemulii

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    Thanks for the art :).

    You can still get to the Chicken's database entry. Just go to the "Hawk" and replace his name in the address bar with Chicken ;).

    <a href="http://sanik.hacking-cult.org/inker/entity.php?section=Animals&entity=Chicken" target="_blank">http://sanik.hacking-cult.org/inker/entity...;entity=Chicken</a>

    Well a couple of reasons (it's <I>kind</I> of in the official art). Neither of which might be the "right" reason! When I was originally drawing over the old chicken on the green background, if I just went straight from purple to green (and there does need to be shading there I think - for the cheek), it was quite hard to see where the background ended and the chicken began. And because the cheek is quite an important part of the whole shape and character, I thought I'd better find some way to bring it out more. So I added the highlight. It also helped me to "round" out the cheek a bit.

    The wings have a bit of an outline because I wanted to bring them away from the body. Although they still look kind of like they're "under" the head...
     
  8. Vincent

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    <img src="http://I.imgur.com/Pd6XD.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />
    My last reply on the chicken's mockup. ;)
    (yeah it's a dirty one!)
     
  9. ICEknight

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    <!--quoteo(post=430095:date=Mar 22 2010, 06:50 PM:name=zemulii)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (zemulii @ Mar 22 2010, 06:50 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=430095"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well a couple of reasons (it's <I>kind</I> of in the official art).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, I see. I had that suspicion and just wanted to make sure.

    Good work.
     
  10. zemulii

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    I like what you did with the cheek there. I've made it more like that.

    Once again, ignore the darkness... the bottom one is closer to what I'm working with.
    The other two are darkened to fit in the game, but I think I may have darkened them a little too much.

    <img src="http://i44.tinypic.com/w70847.png" border="0" class="linked-image" /> <img src="http://i43.tinypic.com/f51rfb.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    <img src="http://i42.tinypic.com/mhdog9.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />
     
  11. Vincent

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    Much better Zemulii!
    What about moving forward with the front frames? (or even better, going on the Eagle remastering?)
     
  12. zemulii

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    When I'm in the mood for drawing, those two will be the first on my list of priorities :). I'm sooo out of practice though. I'll probably have to sketch them up a fair few times before they turn out alright. I suppose I'd better ask though, is that the only Eagle art? I mean it should be enough, but any more can only be helpful!

    Oh, and mind if they're still just in raster (concepts)? I might give vector a go, but I'm way more comfortable just sketching things up.
     
  13. Vincent

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    Given we need vectors for Character Art, Concepts might be the starting point for a good vector counterpart.
    So yes, keep em coming! ^^

    My suggestion for a productive workload is to cooperate as a group: There should be concept artist and vector artist translating the best concepts.
    If anyone wishes to revector Zemulii's Chicken in .AI, that'd be great! ;)

    P.s. <img src="http://info.sonicretro.org/images/c/c3/Locky.PNG" border="0" class="linked-image" />
     
  14. The Growler

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    I guess Eggman/Robotnik himself isn't classed as "Character Art" then? I mean, when I think of "Badniks and bosses", I just think of the machines, rather than Eggman himself (but I suppose the sub-explanation is it's "enemy art" rather than a 'character').

    Anyway, the chicken's turned out very nice :thumbsup:

    Although is it just me, or do the shadows have a tint of purple to it? Zooming in, it would seem like it - just wondering why really?

    *edit* Oh:
    <!--quoteo(post=430095:date=Mar 22 2010, 11:50 PM:name=zemulii)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (zemulii @ Mar 22 2010, 11:50 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=430095"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well a couple of reasons (it's <I>kind</I> of in the official art). Neither of which might be the "right" reason! When I was originally drawing over the old chicken on the green background, if I just went straight from purple to green (and there does need to be shading there I think - for the cheek), it was quite hard to see where the background ended and the chicken began. And because the cheek is quite an important part of the whole shape and character, I thought I'd better find some way to bring it out more. So I added the highlight. It also helped me to "round" out the cheek a bit.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't quite get this. How would making the shadows gray (if that's what you're talking about) affect how it blends in to the background? I'm not even sure if I'm making any sense myself!
     
  15. Vincent

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    Eggman is classified as Character Art, while Enemies and EGG-ships are instead under the badnik-bosses category.
     
  16. zemulii

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    <!--quoteo(post=432521:date=Mar 28 2010, 03:43 AM:name=The Growler)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Growler @ Mar 28 2010, 03:43 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=432521"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Anyway, the chicken's turned out very nice :thumbsup:

    Although is it just me, or do the shadows have a tint of purple to it? Zooming in, it would seem like it - just wondering why really?

    *edit* Oh:
    <!--quoteo(post=430095:date=Mar 22 2010, 11:50 PM:name=zemulii)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (zemulii @ Mar 22 2010, 11:50 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=430095"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->--my quote here--<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't quite get this. How would making the shadows gray (if that's what you're talking about) affect how it blends in to the background? I'm not even sure if I'm making any sense myself!
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    Thanks! Yeah, the shadows are purple. Partly because that's what it's like in the official art, and partly because I like that more than the sprite, and I think grey is a bit bland (especially amongst such stylized and colourful surroundings)!

    I don't think I explained that very well either actually.

    Without the highlight line down the left side of the cheek, it was hard to distinguish between the background and the back of the chicken's head (I wanted the shape of that particular part to be quite obvious). It was kind of like dark on dark (no matter where I put him in the mockup screen). It was also included to try and give the impression that the cheek was "popping out". Or else it could just look like he had a weird bump at the back of his head... I think the newer one does that a lot better though. Not sure what you meant by making the shadows grey, but hopefully that's a little clearer :)?
     
  17. The Growler

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    <!--quoteo(post=432763:date=Mar 28 2010, 04:09 AM:name=zemulii)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (zemulii @ Mar 28 2010, 04:09 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=432763"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Not sure what you meant by making the shadows grey, but hopefully that's a little clearer :)?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I getcha now thanks; anyway, I meant that it was just a suggestion to change the purple shading on the chicken into grey, that's all really.
     
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    I've had a try at drawing the Hawk for the project, please keep in mind that this is currently a work in progress vector image, I already know there is a lot to be done to this image, feed back would be appreciated.

    <img src="http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n380/sonicvs/Screenshot2010-04-08at010821.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />
    As you can see I made 3 different versions, two of them have spiked wings (if you will) and the other one then has the same wings as the original sprite, if you would like me to continue with recreating the Hawk sprites, which one do you like more? (the one in the middle's highlights on the wings will be edited soon!)
     
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    <!--quoteo(post=439238:date=Apr 7 2010, 07:31 PM:name=Extreme-Giga)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Extreme-Giga @ Apr 7 2010, 07:31 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=439238"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><img src="http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n380/sonicvs/Screenshot2010-04-08at010821.png" border="0" class="linked-image" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Those are some SCARY looking eyes.
     
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    <!--quoteo(post=439250:date=Apr 8 2010, 02:07 AM:name=RedStripedShoes)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RedStripedShoes @ Apr 8 2010, 02:07 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=439250"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=439238:date=Apr 7 2010, 07:31 PM:name=Extreme-Giga)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Extreme-Giga @ Apr 7 2010, 07:31 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=439238"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><img src="http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n380/sonicvs/Screenshot2010-04-08at010821.png" border="0" class="linked-image" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Those are some SCARY looking eyes.
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    I'll try to fix them, what exactly makes them "SCARY" too much blue shadow shading on the conjunctiva?
     
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