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  1. Xkeeper

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    <!--quoteo(post=328898:date=Jul 10 2009, 11:39 AM:name=GeneHF)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GeneHF @ Jul 10 2009, 11:39 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=328898"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think that'd be a fun little fundraiser. Certain users volunteer to get temporarily banned and a user is set to a certain price range. For this reason, you put the least likely to get banned (your average joe user or an upstanding member) at the bottom and put the more "notorious" ones to the top to raise the motivation. Of course, some may wonder what's the point if the volunteers will be unbanned anyway (in this particular situation, it isn't likely either will be let back in, but I won't commit to that statement as odd things have happened before) but it just seems more like a just-for-fun thing that also helps give money to the site which will ALSO enable us to improve it for a better experience for you guys.

    Of course, I'm seeing this idea through rose-tinted glasses so I don't know how people would feel if this became a voluntary once-a-year fundraiser for the site, or even if the Admins would consider it. The idea's already got a negative rep, but moreso because it was an in-joke to ban two people already on the chopping block that went horribly wrong.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It only went horribly wrong because people are dipshits.

    That said, if you donate $500 today, you can ban me from Retro for a whole week :v:
     
  2. PARASOL

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    <!--quoteo(post=328908:date=Jul 10 2009, 03:00 PM:name=Sparks)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sparks @ Jul 10 2009, 03:00 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=328908"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=328894:date=Jul 10 2009, 10:28 AM:name=Blanche Hodapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Blanche Hodapp @ Jul 10 2009, 10:28 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=328894"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=328858:date=Jul 10 2009, 06:18 PM:name=Irixion)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Irixion @ Jul 10 2009, 06:18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=328858"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I said that though =P. More 'Members' get banned than 'Olbies'.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Because we've been around long enough not to act like fucking morons

    At least, the majority of us have learnt that. Christ.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->How are you an oldbie and I'm not?


    <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>(I'm just not active enough here)</span>

    But yeah, so basically we just chill here til everything's fixed?
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    I'm pretty sure you must have been around the scene (sws2b, sclassic, etc.) since early 2003 (or earlier) to be an oldbie.

    Edit: Sorry, rushed.
     
  3. <!--quoteo(post=328908:date=Jul 10 2009, 08:00 PM:name=Sparks)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sparks @ Jul 10 2009, 08:00 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=328908"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=328894:date=Jul 10 2009, 10:28 AM:name=Blanche Hodapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Blanche Hodapp @ Jul 10 2009, 10:28 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=328894"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=328858:date=Jul 10 2009, 06:18 PM:name=Irixion)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Irixion @ Jul 10 2009, 06:18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=328858"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I said that though =P. More 'Members' get banned than 'Olbies'.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Because we've been around long enough not to act like fucking morons

    At least, the majority of us have learnt that. Christ.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->How are you an oldbie and I'm not?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Because I joined in 2001
     
  4. Sparks

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    <!--quoteo(post=328933:date=Jul 10 2009, 11:27 AM:name=Blanche Hodapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Blanche Hodapp @ Jul 10 2009, 11:27 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=328933"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=328908:date=Jul 10 2009, 08:00 PM:name=Sparks)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sparks @ Jul 10 2009, 08:00 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=328908"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=328894:date=Jul 10 2009, 10:28 AM:name=Blanche Hodapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Blanche Hodapp @ Jul 10 2009, 10:28 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=328894"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=328858:date=Jul 10 2009, 06:18 PM:name=Irixion)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Irixion @ Jul 10 2009, 06:18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=328858"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I said that though =P. More 'Members' get banned than 'Olbies'.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Because we've been around long enough not to act like fucking morons

    At least, the majority of us have learnt that. Christ.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->How are you an oldbie and I'm not?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Because I joined in 2001
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->It was morely a joke. :v:
     
  5. True Dude

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    Congrats to the Retro team for already being able to bring back the Sonic 2 HD and most recent posts of Eng/ Rev Eng. At this rate, the forum will be back in no time. :thumbsup:
     
  6. Vendettagainst

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    Congrats Chimpo!
     
  7. Krigo

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    Before drama starts again, remember this is a serious topic.

    Oh and I hereby announce this day: 'Chimpo Day'
     
  8. MooMoo

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    I've been away working and stuff, so I have no idea what went down or what went down before it went down to cause it from going down ( :psyduck: ) So what exactly did X64 and the other dude do?
     
  9. Xkeeper

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    <!--quoteo(post=328996:date=Jul 10 2009, 01:39 PM:name=MooMoo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MooMoo @ Jul 10 2009, 01:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=328996"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I've been away working and stuff, so I have no idea what went down or what went down before it went down to cause it from going down ( :psyduck: ) So what exactly did X64 and the other dude do?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    All the forums were deleted (threads are all stuffed into one forum), a few user accounts were deleted...
     
  10. MooMoo

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    Was it hax or just a random error?
     
  11. muteKi

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    One thing I'm curious about as per the user accounts being deleted -- were only oldbies able to access the forum when some of the crazier stuff was going on, or were lots of people and my account was one of the few that was cut?
     
  12. Tweaker

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    I guess I need to clear up a couple of things.

    Xkeeper explained the bans thing best—the money was an after-effect of gratitude of several members that came up in IRC after we mentioned banning these members. It eventually started a joke that culminated in Chimpo's "Ban Chaos Hedgie & Wetflame fund." Most of you didn't see this because it was in the oldbie lounge; it was in the oldbie lounge because, well... a large majority of you would not understand and blow things out of proportion like you did right now. Good going!

    Secondly, Wetflame and Chaos Hedgie were banned because of constantly inciting drama with people, causing multiple topic splits, etc; taking into account their history, every time we've ever given them another chance to come back in they always end up pulling the same shit again, if even in a different way. Hedgie in particular is a self-admitted troll and argumentative by nature, and it's been affecting the board environment in a <I>very</I> bad way. We decided we were done trying to babysit both of them day after day and were finally washing our hands off with them.

    For those who wish to imply as such, the money did <I>not</I> speed up the banning process—it was a <I>result</I> of the ban process. And it was a small fundraising effort that was contained to the few people who expressed interest in IRC about it. In other words, it was no different than when Chimpo donated $100 to save Retro in exchange for one of Scarred Sun's batches of cookies. Stop blowing things out of proportion.

    For the record, I've also provided the same information to TSSZ News when comment was requested from me regarding the manner, so you can be sure that any information that gets out will be truthful.

    Also, regarding Chimpo's modship, I think those who can only point out the times where he was trolling are completely and utterly ignorant of his past experience of a mod (which I have personally lived through in at least 3 forum incarnations), his willingness to help improve the forums, and the fact that he is extremely trustworthy with both power and influence. If you're skeptical, then that's fine; however, have it be known that there will be no biased decisions on his part, and there's nothing stopping us from reversing the decision if something goes wrong. Easy.

    Can we get on with our lives, now? That'd be pretty rad. :)
     
  13. Xkeeper

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    <!--quoteo(post=329007:date=Jul 10 2009, 01:58 PM:name=MooMoo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MooMoo @ Jul 10 2009, 01:58 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=329007"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Was it hax or just a random error?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    x64 got the password through less-than-honest means.
     
  14. LazloPsylus

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    <!--quoteo(post=329035:date=Jul 10 2009, 04:58 PM:name=Tweaker)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tweaker @ Jul 10 2009, 04:58 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=329035"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I guess I need to clear up a couple of things.

    Xkeeper explained the bans thing best—the money was an after-effect of gratitude of several members that came up in IRC after we mentioned banning these members. It eventually started a joke that culminated in Chimpo's "Ban Chaos Hedgie & Wetflame fund." Most of you didn't see this because it was in the oldbie lounge; it was in the oldbie lounge because, well... a large majority of you would not understand and blow things out of proportion like you did right now. Good going!

    Secondly, Wetflame and Chaos Hedgie were banned because of constantly inciting drama with people, causing multiple topic splits, etc; taking into account their history, every time we've ever given them another chance to come back in they always end up pulling the same shit again, if even in a different way. Hedgie in particular is a self-admitted troll and argumentative by nature, and it's been affecting the board environment in a <I>very</I> bad way. We decided we were done trying to babysit both of them day after day and were finally washing our hands off with them.

    For those who wish to imply as such, the money did <I>not</I> speed up the banning process—it was a <I>result</I> of the ban process. And it was a small fundraising effort that was contained to the few people who expressed interest in IRC about it. In other words, it was no different than when Chimpo donated $100 to save Retro in exchange for one of Scarred Sun's batches of cookies. Stop blowing things out of proportion.

    For the record, I've also provided the same information to TSSZ News when comment was requested from me regarding the manner, so you can be sure that any information that gets out will be truthful.

    Also, regarding Chimpo's modship, I think those who can only point out the times where he was trolling are completely and utterly ignorant of his past experience of a mod (which I have personally lived through in at least 3 forum incarnations), his willingness to help improve the forums, and the fact that he is extremely trustworthy with both power and influence. If you're skeptical, then that's fine; however, have it be known that there will be no biased decisions on his part, and there's nothing stopping us from reversing the decision if something goes wrong. Easy.

    Can we get on with our lives, now? That'd be pretty rad. :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Excellent explanation, Tweaker. The decision to make Chimpo a Mod is a good one, and should help clean up some of the shit on the board. As for the bannings, if Chaos Hedgie and Wetflame knew when to just suck it up and accept that there are other opinions, then they wouldn't have been banned. However, what's happened has happened. People miseinterpret, people don't accept other's viewpoints, and people just act as general assholes. I, for one, hope that Retro can move on and improve from this.
     
  15. GeneHF

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    There's no doubt Retro will move on. Hell, the forum restoration's going okay so far. What's up in the air is how many people will get off the ride here versus how many will keep going along with it.

    But yes, now more than ever would be a great time to realize the whole drama shit needs to stop. It's been going on for... what, six to ten-plus years? Honestly, most of you people are at least over 16 years old. This isn't any freakin' Habbo Hotel, GameFAQs, NeoGAF or whatever.
     
  16. Overlord

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    Wow. We have 14,000 topics to move back by hand? Well, THAT sucks.

    Welcome to the club, Chimpo - our power levels are equal, now. =P
     
  17. saxman

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    Here's a question -- how exactly do you know where each topic is supposed to go? I am not familliar with how the information is stored and such, so it makes me curious to know if it actually has information that tells you where it was or if you have to figure each one out yourself.
     
  18. GeneHF

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    Usually it's looking at the topic a bit to get a context of it and then sorting it where it would seem most likely to belong. It's not too hard a job so much as it is daunting.
     
  19. Overlord

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    Yeah, what Gene said. It'll take a while, but it should be doable.
     
  20. Chibisteven

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    Alot has happened in one day and as usual I probally slept through it while it happened. (Yes, I take naps).