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Discussion in 'Technical Discussion' started by Captain L, Jun 12, 2013.

  1. GerbilSoft

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    You misread the addendum. Y *should* be on Green. On the Wii, it's actually on Red.

    http://pinouts.ru/Game/nintendo_wii_av_pinout.shtml

    Pin 3: Composite (PAL/NTSC; disabled when using component)
    Pin 7: Red (PAL), Y (NTSC S-Video), Y (component)
    Pin 9: Green (PAL), C (NTSC S-Video), Pb (component)
    Pin 11: Blue (PAL), Pr (component)
     
  2. TmEE

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    Whoops... yeah, it makes no sense anymore haha.
     
  3. Metal Man88

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    I have an actual cable for the Gamecube, and in fact have sort of been waiting for it to reach $200 or so so I can make a mint off of it. :p

    Also, I dunno how good an idea it is to rely on your roommate for a TV. Most of mine never had a TV and I was the only one with one.

    Finally, my original Gamecube's drive is dying, so sadly I don't get any real use out of my cable anymore.
     
  4. Captain L

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    I theoretically could bring my TV, but I don't know how much my roommate or any friends would appreciate me bringing a 20 in full screen CRT to college. But it does have a built in DVD player!
     
  5. JaredAFX

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    Has anyone ever tried modding a GameCube to use Wii Component cables or something like that? What are the problems that could occur when doing that, besides it probably being a waste to begin with (taking apart two consoles just for one little thing).
     
  6. winterhell

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    Gamecube's output needs an active conversion to component, thats why the original cable is so expensive. I don't think there is a solution that costs less than the console itself.
     
  7. LockOnRommy11

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    There ain't. I explored that avenue. Having to buy a cable 4 times the current cost of my GameCube was fucking stupid, but I'm glad I did it. Couldn't put up with that shitty quality any more, plus when I one day no longer use my Wii, I'll need component picture!

    Was also thinking about in the future when I wanna dig my GameCube out and play, because TV's will only get better in picture quality from now on, and in 20 years time I might wanna dig that bad boy out (I still play my Mega Drive!)
     
  8. GerbilSoft

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    The other option, which is probably cheaper, is getting a used Wii RVL-001 and third-party Wii component cable.

    That being said, I also just got a GCN component video cable for $toomuch. Unfortunately, my GCN's audio is still broken, so I either have to fix that or get another DOL-001. :(
     
  9. Mastered Realm

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    The cheapest is... Dolphin <3
     
  10. winterhell

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    Not only that, but its also making it harder and harder to justify playing at 480p when you can play at 1440p with Antialiasing.
    This is different from playing Mega Drive on an emulator though, as you cant render the image even 10% better than the console.
     
  11. GerbilSoft

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    Only if you already have a computer powerful enough to run it at 60fps. :v:
     
  12. Mastered Realm

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    Yeah of course XD

    I can run Wii with aa at 60fps so GCN is no problem.
     
  13. LocalH

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    This, plus you can softmod it and run most GCN games from a USB drive, prolonging the life of your optical drive. DIOS MIOS (there's also a Lite version that loads games from SD, but that seems pointless to me) has minor incompatibility issues with games that use audio streaming, and if you're using a component cable it assumes progressive scan for its splash screen (even if your Wii is set to 480i and you're using a CRT), while Devolution is actually running GCN games in Wii mode, and can handle audio streaming, but requires a one-time verification of original disc possession (which may be a dealbreaker if one were to have, or buy for cheap, a Wii with a broken optical drive). DIOS MIOS is a custom MIOS replacement, while Devolution is a standalone app. The benefit to using DIOS MIOS, in my opinion, is that you can run your 1.35GB ISO/GCM images through DMToolbox (which comes with DM) and scrub them of wasted space, similar to the .wbfs file format for wii games. Devolution requires 1:1 rips like you would get with CleanRip, and thus requires each game to take up 1.35GB of space. Both DM and Devolution support virtual memory cards (called "no more memory" in the Wii scene), but compatibility is much spottier than on the PS2 with Open PS2 Loader (which I use, and VMC compatibility is quite high), so I recommend using a physical memory card.

    If you do this, I recommend trying to find an older Wii (pre-2008 for sure, as they fixed the strncmp bug present in boot1 sometime during 2008) so that you can install BootMii/boot2, which provides low-level brick protection - even if you nearly completely fuck your NAND, as long as the first 8 blocks are intact, then you can put an SD card in with the BootMii files that the installer will prepare for you, and restore the entire NAND from a backup that you make with BootMii (which I recommend doing regularly). If you get a newer GCN-compatible Wii, you won't be able to install BootMii except as an IOS, which provides much less protection if something happens to your System Menu or the IOSs that it uses, as it requires a sane NAND filesystem. There's also priiloader, which is sort of in-between BootMii/boot2 and BootMii/IOS for brick protection - it runs before the System Menu, but depends on the IOS that the System Menu uses, so if something happens to that, then you're hosed. This will run on newer GCN-compatible Wiis with the newer version of boot1. Boot1 can never be modified, as the system checks its hash against a value stored in one-time programmable memory, so the hash can never be changed, and if boot1's hash doesn't match, then you pretty much have a bricked Wii unless you reflash the NAND with a hardware programmer.

    TL;DR: Get an older pre-2008 Wii, softmod it, run your GCN games from a USB hard drive, and use cheap Wii component cables instead of highly expensive GCN component cables. Also, I use too many fucking parentheses.