Discussion in 'General Sonic Discussion' started by RAMPKORV, Jun 14, 2008.
They already did that twice with Metal Sonic and Shadow
o hai Ashura
Yeah, but they're technically not Ashura based. I was talking about Ashura-based evil-twin type villains. Besides, Metal Sonics are kinda cool, just overdone to an extreme extent.
And Overlord, Scourge is Archie and not Sega, so Scourge doesn't count. :P
Agreed, the only Metal Sonic that was interesting was the one in the anime, what I wonder though is that if he could read his mind, couldn't he just easily kill him?
Not necessarily. It worked both ways, as Sonic could read Metal's mind and Metal could read Sonic's, putting them on an even playing ground.
Yah, that reminds me of this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAmCpSCj9v4
Overlord, don't throw Scourge in on this. Scourge is one of the few Archie-Added characters that are fucking wicked.
Whereas Ashura is a fucking fan name for a fucking glitch. God I hate everyone that refers to it as an actual character.
What?! Scourge is fucking Recolour The Fanhog, in almost every way. Sonic but a different colour, extra powers, unoriginal name...
Oh I lol'd, But Scourge is sonic from an alternate dimension. He has no powers that Sonic doesn't
Tell me about it. I mean, in an odd sort of way, Scourge is a little cool but... at the same time he's mostly unoriginal. What irks me is his fangirl base... how many fangirls can a Sonic recolour possibly have? It's disgusting!
I'm surprised none of you have gone bashing Shadow as an "Evil Sonic Recolour Clone" yet.
People have been doing THAT since 2001. ;P
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OMG, Hyper Ashura in S3&K :P[/quote]
Fixed. :P (Not to mention my former alias.)
EDIT: I see Saku is back from the dead. :P
This is the sordid, unimpressive tale of Ashura:
Charles "Kiken" Mugg used to run a Sonic website on his college account in the early 90's which was devoted to the Japanese stuff from the games. This is something which was pretty rare back then; Most other sites of the time focused on the Satam Show and Archie Comics - such as rat.org/sonic - if anyone here is old enough to even remember that. He had a bunch of scans from fliers and stuff, and he did a bunch of translations from the Japanese Sonic CD manual. Out of the 5 or 6 Sonic sites which existed back then, his was the only site which had content that was, I guess I'll use this term "SegaSonic."
Later on he discovered the pallet glitch, and decided to post the trick on his website and named it "Ashura." He also posted a lot of other stuff you could do in the games along with it; It's where a lot of the first debug tricks showed up on the internet, such as the stuff in Sonic 3's Angel Island zone with Sonic on a surfboard, the weird 3D balls, and on and on. I submitted some of that stuff, ironically. This is also where the first scan of the SegaSonic arcade game showed up, along with the character names and a little other info. This stuff is all common knowledge now that the games have been completely emulated, ripped apart, and disassembled, but this was something like 1993 or 94 at the time, and most computers struggled with even emulating Genesis games.
Around the time he posted the glitch, I found his page and became friends with him. I thought the glitch was cool (I guess I was 12 or 13?), and I asked him if I could use the name as my handle on the internet. To my surprise, he said sure thing, go for it. I've used it as a handle for the most part since then, and he's been my good buddy for something like 13 years. (I'm math challenged, so that could be wrong.) He also drew the artwork of "Ashura" with the bang that floats around in ultra bad 1990s scan quality. I have the original of it, somewhere... and that's pretty much it.
He (and I) had nothing to do with the crazy amount of weird bullshit that's appeared after the above events. People just ran with it, I guess? It amazes (and horrifies) me to see what people come up with when I google it. Sometimes it's like my eyes are being raped by the awful powers of awfulness. I find the fact that people feel so strongly about the whole thing either way is pretty hilarious, though.
Wow, that's more detail than I expected. Thanks for sharing!
Out of curiosity, did he ever explain the influence behind the name "Ashura"? Or did it come out of nowhere?
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