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  1. fuzzbuzz

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    Please shoot me if this has already been discussed, or if you hate me.

    Okay, so I was hacking my Sonic 1 Rom, redesigning the entire level, when something very unusual happened.

    Without changing and objects, and only placing 2 53x999 tiles next to eachother, I get this strange thing that happens. The first tile, is one of those cylinders in the ground, the ones that go in an s-shape, hard time explaining it, and as soon as I get out of it, and I hit the second tile, actually the first tree in the tile, I lose all my rings. I'm going really fast out of the tube, but when I go back, just walking, not going through the tubes again, I lost all my rings again.

    Here's a bigger catch. Every time I walk by that tree, my ring count resets, AND massive amounts of rings start flying from the top right and bottom right of my screen. 5 or so fly out as I move back and forth. Almost like a fountain, just I always lose the rings when I pass by the tree. Weird, huh?

    I don't have pics with me, but I'll post them soon, at least if this hasn't already been discussed. :)


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  2. XFox Prower

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    Wow that's weird. So your rings reset and rings go everywhere like a fountain. But other than that can this kill you, or nothing more than a ring reset? I can't wait to see a pic of that :lol:
     
  3. LOst

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    Sonic 1 has 256x256 tiles, not 128x128
     
  4. fuzzbuzz

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    That's what I meant. It's been one of THOSE days... -_-

    EDIT: Well, I guess I might as well post the Pics now...

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  5. fuzzbuzz

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    Damn right I double posted...*bump*

    I made this crap video of it happening, well, because I can. As you will see, I'm not much of a videographer...

    Sorry, but the video is in WMV format, instead of something cool like MPG. Oh well, everybody that has windows should be able to view it.

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    So damn weird...


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  6. XFox Prower

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    That's freaky!
    *turns ring sprites into tomatoes and then makes rings hurt you*
     
  7. fuzzbuzz

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    Yep, and I have no idea what could cause it...
     
  8. Rika Chou

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    Probably just an invisible object that caused sonic to get hurt.
     
  9. fuzzbuzz

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    But why don't I die after I do it multiple times, with no rings?
     
  10. ICEknight

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    I guess it's because you've put the "spill rings" object near that place, not the "kill sonic" object (if it even exists).
     
  11. fuzzbuzz

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    But I haven't changed any objects...That's the weird part. I've ONLY touched the tiles. I've only moved objects, not modified what they are.
     
  12. ICEknight

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    ...I don't think there's any other possible explanation, as far as I know the tiles can't hurt Sonic by themselves. =|
     
  13. fuzzbuzz

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    Weird. It's kinda annoying. I have to find a way to stop it from happening. I don't think my player's would appreciate their ring count going to 50 to 0. :)
     
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    1. You must have placed a lava tle there so Sonic would get hurt.
    2. You were in debug, so I belive that is why Sinic didn't die.
    Otherwise, you made an immortal Sonic. Oh noz! *shot*
     
  15. fuzzbuzz

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    If you noticed in the video, I was not in debug. So #2 doesn't work. And #1, I don't there there is lava in GHZ...
     
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    I haven't looked in the video, but 2. is off anyways.
    As for 1, you can place a lava DAMAGE sprite there, so you can, in a way, have lava in GHz.
     
  17. raVen

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    now that's unusual, its like there flying right to him magically, maybe its meant to be something special, or somethings messin with the "lose rings" data, or I don't know and am probably gonna get shot.....(btw, work on your camera skills :P )
     
  18. XFox Prower

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    When you said modifying tiles, that should have only been an image change right? Fixing a few pixels on a tile shouldn't make any difference. Or did you port a tile or any other such things that may have effects behind them? There may be a small chance that some string of bytes across a tile is being interpreted as more than just an image, but there's probably very little that we haven't figured out in the rom. I could also use better camera experience so I can take better pics of my Tails plushies :lol:
     
  19. fuzzbuzz

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    I just used ESE to modify the level layout. That's all I did...Oh, and it seems like it's just a huge verticle line that's screwy. I was lower in my level, and when I passed directly under that same point, BAM! all my rings gone and a few ones flew at me.


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  20. XFox Prower

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    It sort of reminds me of the Ring Station in Sonic R at the Reactive Factory
     
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