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Hez, on Today, 07:28 PM, said:

That's fine and all, but a lack of money can drain the fun out of things disturbingly quickly. Time is money, after all, and the more money you have, the more time there is for other things... like, say, friends, community, hobby projects, etc.

Stealth, on Today, 03:55 PM, said:

The only other real option would be to remove any mention of Megamix whatsoever from the patreon entirely, and if it becomes my primary income, never, ever work on Megamix again because I may as well have explicitly said that the projects listed in detail on the page are the only ones I'm ever going to work on and I'd otherwise be lying to the people kind enough to fund me. Is that preferable?

Wow, people just leave Stealth alone if you don't support his beginnings.
It clearly is the gray area so I really don't know what the single most right stance on the situation.
What I do know however is that Stealth is one of the most contributive and prominent members of the Sonic community (Retro specifically) so if you don't support him in this uncertain activity then at least don't spite him.
It would really be a huge loss if he gave up on this community.

Hez, on Today, 10:00 AM, said:

Does that means that I can ask for donations for the things I make in this community as well? They're nowhere in the same level of hacking discoveries, but... />

(Yes, this is a serious question. My financial situation went from bad to even worse just today)

I see that absolutely everybody has actually visited and read the actual Patreon page. Should have known I wouldn't be able to get away with something like this



Seriously, that's what some people are behaving like it looks like. Maybe actually read it? I don't know

It's a pretty pointless argument anyway since I'm not going to take it down or anything, or even change my mind about what I'm doing first. I'm going to leave it up, I'm going to mention it when I feel like it, and I'm going to start by pleasing the people who wanted to help who happen to be Sonic fans by working on "Sonic 1 Megamix" as I promised as a direct response to their generocity

I want to turn my projects, all of my projects, into my full-time work. I have a lot of them. They are big. They need a lot of attention and complex stuff that I just can't do to them in-between everything else.

Megamix hasn't been finished for 11 years? I've been dealing with a ton of various stuff during that time just to make a living, and I kept pushing it anyway, and in all that time I never asked for anything, not even when Megamix won a supposed cash prize from the hacking contest at least twice and none of us ever received it, even to this day.

HCGE/E02 has incidentally been in development for 11 years as well, not counting 7 years of development for its predecessor, and anything else I did before that, and it looks "limiting" and "not worth [your] time? The thing comes from prior to 1997. I've been trying to get the time to build it for that long, and I haven't been able to in large part due to the fact that I have to make a living. HCGE certainly hasn't been helping because I don't want to force hobby people to pay anything, and I haven't asked except for if hell freezes over and somebody decides to build a commercial game with it. To-date I've only gotten a very limited number of people who even tried to use it as a hobby, and each and every one of them have quit for one reason or another. Do you want like wide-screen and a million colors? Well I'm sorry, but it's going to have to take a backseat to core engine and editor functionality and features, because I don't want to be responsible for people churning out "pretty"-looking crap. I'm building a game engine, not a color playground. Help me or stop whining and wait until I'm allowed to get around to actually doing something like that; it's just that simple of a choice, and you do have the choice. Just make it and move on

$1 won't do shit, honestly. $64 won't really do shit, either. A few hundred $1's, though, that's getting somewhere. I'm aiming big, going full-time with what I want to do, how I want to do it. This is the exact opposite of developing under someone else and/or for money on deadlines or having to forsake wild ideas or complex implementation for what can almost be guaranteed to be well-functioning and actually done within the amount of time that is available to me; this is on my terms so that I can take however long it actually takes to do whatever actually needs to be done to make whatever it is that I'm doing the best that it can possibly be with me as developer, and that's exactly what I told people. They know this going in, and still I already have 10 patrons so far. If you check the full list, you'll find that they're not all "random nobodies", as well, and I resent being made to put it that way because these people are just plain awesome

I don't know what else can possibly be said. I don't care who hasn't read or doesn't read it; I'm not going to repeat myself. I can't be bothered to spend any more time on people who aren't put out in the least by any of this and can only stand to potentially benefit from it being ridiculous

I'm going to run this Patreon.
Megamix is going to be one of the projects that I spend any time developing while the Patreon is open.

There is nothing more to discuss regarding the subject, particularly given that this is supposed to be the new legitimate Sonic Megamix project thread that has little-to-nothing at all to do with the fact that there even exists a Patreon.

I guess I do have to thank those of you who participated in all of this, though. I didn't quite feel right before; now, this really does feel like an actual Sonic Megamix thread.

Hez, on Yesterday, 04:28 PM, said:

Originally HCZ had a big layer of green grass above the water level. That's what I was referring to.