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DragonDoom Z - A DBZ Total Conversion for Doom (WIP)
13 April 2014 - 06:49 PM

http://www.sendspace.com/file/a1eykl
Not sure if this belongs here or in another sub-forum, but anyone familiar with Doom and its source engine Zdoom will be familiar with its vast editing capabilities. I am currently working on a Dragonball Z Deathmatch (and possibly singleplayer) TC for doom, using ideas from the old DoomZ mod (an old DeHackEd wad for the original Doom) as a base, I have vastly improved and expanded on the original mod in every way. You can now play as many of the characters from the series using every signature technique, as well as unique items and the ability of flight from the start!
I will be concentrating on the early sagas for characters, as I feel (and general consensus says) they are the best and most innovating, so sorry, there will be no Buu etc! Besides, getting fully rotating sprites of the later characters is impossible, as I am ripping them from the Znes card RPG "Legend of the Super Saiyan" which only goes up to the frieza saga. Unless anyone can provide or help me get newer characters then im afraid its the older ones only!
There are some basic enemies that have been replaced for testing purposes, most if not all of these will appear in the final single player release as well, eventually there will be most of the characters as bosses available to fight!
at the moment these are the playable characters:
all characters have a basic Ki Blast, Ki Beam/ball, Melee and ki regeneration techniques.
Goku:

Good all rounder and great starter character, has good ki and speed, but lacks piercing or homing weapons.
Renzoku: rapid fire ki blast, standard ki blast alt-fire, medium speed.
Solar Flare: blinds your opponents for a short time
Kamehameha: Fires a powerful explosive wave of ki, fastest charger in the game.
Spirit Bomb: Uses no Ki! slowest charging weapon in the game but HUGE damage. Disables movement while firing.
Super Saiyan:

All weapons have been upgraded, however he loses the spirit bomb but gains the Super Kamehameha, a faster, more powerful version of the deadly turtle wave!
Gohan:

Plucky little Gohan is a fast mover, with good but limited weapons.
Renzoku: Second fastest renzoku in the game
Masenko: Quick charging explosive ball, alt-fire goes into "rage mode" where you fire rapid ki blasts ending in a Masenko
Kamehameha: Like gokus but charges slower.
Vegata:

Vegeta specialises in powerful explosive ki weapons, and has a good ki reserve and the strongest melee in the game.
Renzoku: Fastest renzoku in the game.
Gallit Gun: Much like the Kamehameha wave, fires a powerful blast at your opponent
Final Crash: this extremely powerful beam is the prototype Final Flash, not only homes in on your target but explodes too! Takes a lot of ki to charge up though.
Super Saiyan:

All weapons have been upgraded, as well as getting the true Final Flash he also gets the Big Bang Attack, which is a fast charging powerful ball of death!
Piccolo:

Piccolo is a great tactical fighter, with good ki reserves and specialises in piercing weapons.
Renzoku: Medium speed ki blasts.
Eye Lasers: fires 2 instant hit lasers at your enemy.
Masenko: Just like Gohans.
Special Beam Cannon: The ultimate piercing weapon, will kill anyone in 1 shot, but takes very long to charge and uses a lot of ki.
Krillin:

This overlooked Z-warrior is actually an expert at ki manipulation, he has a wide veriety of powerful techniques, just not the ki reserves to sustain a long assault.
Renzoku: Slow firing ki blasts.
Solar Flare: Blind your opponents with this attack.
Scatterbeam: this clever technique fires a ball that spits into 4 and homes in on your targets, great for clearing a room!
Kamehameha: Second fastest charger of this common technique
Destructo Disc: A powerful, slow moving disc of death, will slice anyone in two, takes up a lot of ki though.
Frieza:

the Galactic Overlord is a powerful character, using brute force to get the job done.
Renzoku: Medium speed ki blasts.
Finger Laser: fires a powerful piercing beam, or alt fire rapid bursts of less powerful lasers.
Kienzan: a deadly homing disc or ki, this powerful weapon takes long to charge but the outcome is worth it!
Death Ball: Frieza's answer the the Spirit Bomb, except this draws on his own ki, and takes less time to charge, the effect is the same however; devastating.
Yamcha:

He may not be the greatest fighter, but ol' yamcha is an interesting character and his ultimate attack is not to be sniffed at!
Renzoku: Medium ki attacks.
Kamehameha: Slow to charge, but packs the full force of a regular kamehameha wave.
Spirit Ball/Super Spirit Ball: Yamchas utimate move needs time to charge, but its homing properties are second to none, the super version is even explosive!
Tien:

Always the hard worker and grinder, Tien packs a powerful punch with his unusual weapons.
Renzoku: Medium/slow ki bursts.
Solar Flare: His signature technique obviously blinds your opponents.
Dodon Ray: Fires a piercing beam at your enemy.
Kamehameha: Slow charging due to him not using this much, but it still packs a punch!
Tribeam: A unique weapon being the only hitscan blast in the game, has the ability to zoom in too, takes a lot of ki however.
Chiaotzu:

Probably the hardest character to play with, chiaotzu has weak health but don't underestimate his telekinesis attack!
Renzoku: slow firing.
Dodon Ray: Like Tien, the Crane School's signature attack.
Telekinesis: creates a huge wave that blasts opponents and projectiles away! very powerful and deadly.
Jeice:

An allrounder for anyone wanting to play as the bad guys, Jeice is a ki manipulation expert, and has powerful ball weapons. He is very similar to Yamcha but has more ki and health.
Rendzoku: fast firing ki blasts.
Crasher Cannon: a huge beam of ki generated in his right hand, he used this on Goku to try and distract him for Captain Ginyu.
Crusher Ball: His ultimate attack, this stationary move charges a huge ball of ki that homes in on its target with deadly precision.
Raditz:

Great Ki manipulator, but with a weak reserve, his moves are not to be sniffed at though!
Renzoku: fast firing ki bullets.
Saturday Crush: Fires a powerful beam of Ki at your opponent. This was used against Goku after his failed Kamehameha.
Double Sunday: A unique piercing attack, fires 2 red beams of ki that can melt through flesh! Used against Piccolo who's arm got disintegrated.
"Keep your eye on the birdy!": A move never shown properly in the anime, but he raises his hand and fires a homing blue projectile that explodes!
Nappa:

This lumbering powerhouse is the slowest character in the game, however his huge ki reserves and good health make up for it! He specialises in explosive attacks. He also carries 6 saibamen seeds by default!
Renzoku: As fast as Vegeta.
Bomber DX: Charges a huge ball of ki in his right hand and fires it at your opponent. He used this multiple times against the Z fighters, to varying degrees of success.
Volcano Explosion: Nappa's ultimate move; He stands on the spot and raises his 2 fingers and fires a huge wave of Ki from himself. This attack is relatively short range, but packs a punch!
Saibamen Seeds: by default he carries round with him a batch of 6 Saibamen for additional help.
(old) screenshots:
Spoiler
I am currently looking for people to help me with this, I suck at mapping (like, I cannot map for the life of me), I am good with decorate but need testers, balancers and general feedback, I am looking for someone who is good with ASC too as a few things I want to implement cant be done with Decorate.
Also, credit to the original dragonballz mod author, I do not know who made it unfortunately! and credit to ESF and ZEQ2 for sounds (originally ripped from the budokai games). -
so anyone been to retrogamingcables.com?
13 January 2012 - 12:18 AM
so I was getting back into my megadrive the other day and realised how much of a ballache hooking it up it can be, and the quality was crap, so I looked at alternative means of plugging it in to my tv, and lo and behold, they do a scart option! now I know a lot of Americans don't have access to scart capabily but I bought a lead off that site and my god....my megadrive hasnt looked or sounded better! it directs a pure RGB stereo signal to your tv regardless of aspect or size, and I can safely say the games look so much better, evey pixel is crystal clear, its almost like HD! I recommend anyone with a megadrive to visit http://www.retrogamingcables.com/ and order a scart lead for their console! -
haha, look at this clearly fake S2B article.
22 February 2005 - 06:10 PM
http://www.freewebs.com/sonictwoalpha/
This appeared on the StC-O forums and claimed to be a genuine article.
haha, this is so fake. I have been in the Sonic community for over 3 years and I've seen my fare share of fake betas and mockups.
Nice hoax though, it would fool most people who havnt read into the games (specifically Sonic 2). The use of Sonic 1 zones and enemies really puts this down, he could have at least drawn new zones! The 'new' tails sprite is very bad though....Sorry.
The writting too, there are chunks of official magazine text mixed in with his own words, you can clearly tell. Heh, im surprised he didnt dig out the old Genocide City hoax and slap that on it.
Still, good job on trying to make it realistic. NEXT! -
Interesting Sonic 2 review
31 January 2005 - 05:57 PM
Yesterday I found my old Sonic Yearbook, I thought I had chucked it with the rest of my old StCs but I didnt! I was so releaved that I found it. I went through the book looking for any beta shots, I was mildly disappointed; I DID find a few though, the opening pages are a messy montage of Beta shots, final shots and even a Sonic 1 beta shot! I didnt scan this because all the images there are common ones that have already been found. (Ill scan it on request if anyone wants it).
Looking through it I found a VERY interesting image from Sonic 1:

Clearly this is a very late beta shot, the flames in the background have been implemented in and so has the physics for the stone object. I think this is a new image, I don't think I've seen it anywhere else before.
Next there is a review of Sonic 2 in:
http://members.lycos...n2k9/Review.jpg
its a huge image so please click on it.
don't mind the black screen behind Sonic and Tails, its like that in the opening of the final titlescreen (yes I got exited, I thought it was a new opening). Interestingly it mentions 10 zones, either they have the beat with HPZ and another zone or they have a beta WITHOUT a zone in, because there are 12 zones in the Final.
Aslo, they used this image:

Why? This is clearly from a very early beta. I think this review was bodged togeather since using a final titlescreen and an early beta CPZ doesn't make sense.
Anyway I'd like to see what you make of it.
again, any scans requested I'll do. -
hey guys, what do you think of this?
15 September 2004 - 06:46 PM
http://sclassic.ssonicnet.com/forums/index...showtopic=13089
if you cant see it, heres the quote:
supershadow342, on Sep 14 2004, 02:49 AM, said:
Yep, read my discussion with the owner
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Session Start (AIM - sonicdustin:Godzillasaurs): Mon Sep 13 19:46:38 2004
Sonicdustin: hello, is this §øñî¢?
Godzillasaurs: Yep.
Sonicdustin: Ok, this is supershadow342 from SZF
Godzillasaurs: Wait... Lemme guess... you want some of the wav files for Sonic Xtreme, and some other prototypes? XBB
Sonicdustin: Id like to talk to you about your Sonic 2 prototype
Sonicdustin: Sorry, I don't mean to be a bother
Godzillasaurs: Don't worry your not bothering anything.
Godzillasaurs: :]
Godzillasaurs: Now what would you like to talk about The Sonic 2 prototype?
Sonicdustin: Its just, if you really have a sonic 2 prototype with the levels removed from the pirate, you would become famous throughout the entire sonic community
Sonicdustin: Like Dust Hill
Godzillasaurs: Yeah I know...
Sonicdustin: or whatever its called, the desert level
Godzillasaurs: Lol, it was called Dust hill zone. :]
Godzillasaurs: And...
Sonicdustin: Now youre serious, you have a prototype with those levels?
Godzillasaurs: Yes, Very serious.
Sonicdustin: ....holy shit
Sonicdustin: Ok, have you thought of getting these dumped at all?
Godzillasaurs: Hmm... no.
Sonicdustin: ok, this is the hard part
Sonicdustin: Im not sure if anyone has a dumper........Could you take pictures?
Godzillasaurs: Nope, my scanner Busted. =/
Godzillasaurs: But once I Tried to Email like the staff at sonicstadium.org...
Godzillasaurs: They did not belive me. =/
Godzillasaurs: Im gunna try to get my scanner working
Sonicdustin: I figured........
Sonicdustin: Ok, just wondering, but where did you live?
Godzillasaurs: And a working camara so I can show the whole world. xB
Godzillasaurs: Texas.
Sonicdustin: ok, how old are you?
Godzillasaurs: 21.
Godzillasaurs: I Know it's kind of old for a sonic fan. xD
Godzillasaurs: I have grown completley attached to it though.
Godzillasaurs: Lol.
Sonicdustin: Then you faked your birthday on SZF?
Godzillasaurs: Yeah I wanted to blend in. xB
Sonicdustin: trust me, theres nothing wrong with that
Sonicdustin: Look at the cult, theres lots of people that age
Godzillasaurs: Lol, Okie.
Sonicdustin: Hell, im only 13, but I got my priorities straight
Godzillasaurs: Lol Yep.
Sonicdustin: You really shouldnt fake your spelling though, something this serious shouldnt be taken lightly like that
Sonicdustin: now, is there a specific ROM hack that is similar to the original designs?
Godzillasaurs: Well...
Godzillasaurs: The rom hack does have the snails...
Godzillasaurs: The T-Rexes....
Godzillasaurs: But yeah it is missing the tricaratops...
Sonicdustin: lol, you should see my expression right now
Godzillasaurs: And the little machinical Reptiles from dust hill.
Godzillasaurs: xD
Sonicdustin: the crocodile things?
Godzillasaurs: No Not the corcadiles...
Godzillasaurs: It kind of looks like a Devil Or Ghecko THing kind of... and it like sticks it's toung out at you....
Sonicdustin: Sounds familiar......
Sonicdustin: oh well
Godzillasaurs: Then there was another one... it was kind of similar to the armadille, but it could roll into a ball and smash you. xD
Sonicdustin: Sorta like the roller thing from sonic 1?
Godzillasaurs: Kind of like what sonic can only it's a brownish color. Lol.
Godzillasaurs: Yeah...
Godzillasaurs: But just a little faster and a little smaller and does not have the Square tile things. Lol.
Sonicdustin: ok
Godzillasaurs: On Oil ocean zone prototype...
Godzillasaurs: Every now and then...
Sonicdustin: Now I think the most mysterious of them all is the fabled Genocide city
Sonicdustin: eh?
Godzillasaurs: There would be a little miniture Rolling ball...
Sonicdustin: Yea, I know about that thing
Godzillasaurs: Soif you jknow what I mean... then that is what the armadillo thing is kind of like.
Sonicdustin: ah, I see
Godzillasaurs: Ohh... and genocide city?
Sonicdustin: yep
Sonicdustin: Its like sky chase you say?
Godzillasaurs: Well actually it is the sky chase clevel from sonic 2....
Godzillasaurs: But....
Godzillasaurs: Belive it or not...
Godzillasaurs: That level and The death egg zone were cut down levels.
Sonicdustin: So this is an earlier prototype?
Sonicdustin: So Genocide city is nothing more than sky chase with different art?
Sonicdustin: I imagine youre playing it right now?
Godzillasaurs: AHHH Stupid pc freeze ups...
Godzillasaurs: But here anyways...
Godzillasaurs: ABout the genocide city...
Godzillasaurs: No it's actually more.
Godzillasaurs: Becuase on Genocide city act 2, there is like a little scene were Sonic and tails are flying out of the city and onto the giant robotnick flyer
Sonicdustin: Which is Wing fortress
Sonicdustin: ok, I see
Godzillasaurs: There is actually a reason why sonic 3 was beyond a new adventure from sonic 2. xD
Godzillasaurs: Or evolved...
Godzillasaurs: Becuase of all that action on sonic 2 was tooken out of the game...
Sonicdustin: So they abandoned the city idea for a sky level, but kept the Flying ship idea?
Godzillasaurs: Yeah.
Sonicdustin: ok
Sonicdustin: Was there any extra features regarding Hidden palace
Sonicdustin: *?
Godzillasaurs: Hmm....
Godzillasaurs: Well in act 2...
Sonicdustin: the stuck in wall thing?
Sonicdustin: We know
Godzillasaurs: You would start off normally on the land instead of burried under the ground. Lol...
Godzillasaurs: Also...
Godzillasaurs: Well it would take me about maybe 3 hours if I tell the whole level becuase it's all diffrent. Lol.
Godzillasaurs: But there were huge glitches though.
Sonicdustin: Have you ever actually Played the final version?
Godzillasaurs: Yeah.
Sonicdustin: I don't see why they would change the level design in an earlier protoype, only to make it a copy inside land of the first act and finally scrap it all together
Sonicdustin: So the first act is essentially the same?
Godzillasaurs: Yes, actually the first act is the same in all...
Sonicdustin: Also, was there any type of lift in hidden palace to get to the top of the big slope near the end?
Sonicdustin: And my most puzzling question, where did you get this beta?
Godzillasaurs: xD I was just typing that....
Godzillasaurs: See I got the beta... about 8 or 9 years ago...
Sonicdustin: ...
Godzillasaurs: My bestest friend's dad worked at a sonic Team/Sega Of America Company.
Sonicdustin: You never even thought of sharing this to the public?
Sonicdustin: at all?
Sonicdustin: ever?
Godzillasaurs: I tried to on sonicstadium.org once...
Sonicdustin: I find that quite hard to believe.....
Godzillasaurs: THey thought I was a fool to make them belive me. =
Godzillasaurs: **=/
Sonicdustin: ..
Godzillasaurs: Yeah most people do find it hard to belive.
Godzillasaurs: **Believe
Sonicdustin: I would like to request that you post this on the cult, and possibly get this dumped
Sonicdustin: Something like this would make our other beta look like shit
Godzillasaurs: On Sonic cult.org?
Godzillasaurs: I was thinking of doing that...
Sonicdustin: sonic-cult.org
Sonicdustin: You coulda thought of that a few YAERS ago you know.....
Sonicdustin: shit
Sonicdustin: *years
Godzillasaurs: but then again I don't want to be a fool... I mean the guys on the cult are pretty tough Lol.
Sonicdustin: exactly, they won't let you ignore all this and think its not special
Sonicdustin: They will eventually force you to get it dumped, and then make you admin or something
Godzillasaurs: Lol, yeah I know, but I just don;t have the rigfht equitment.
Godzillasaurs: **Don't
Sonicdustin: But they do, they will get it dumped, esspecially something big like this
Sonicdustin: You could be the next Simon Wai
Sonicdustin: heh
Godzillasaurs: Hmm... Okie I'll try sometime, I pormise. Lol.
Sonicdustin: Id really like to get this done as soon as possible
Godzillasaurs: Alright... but isn't that site down? Becuase it had to ike pay the money or soemthing?
Godzillasaurs: Or did they finally get it back up and working?
Sonicdustin: Its working.....
Sonicdustin: Im on there now
Godzillasaurs: OMG YAY! Hold on.
Sonicdustin: Are you already registered?
Godzillasaurs: Yes.
Sonicdustin: as who?
Sonicdustin: This is just a temp board though
Godzillasaurs: ALl the cool names were tooken so I was stuck with...
Godzillasaurs: "12345678901234567890"
Godzillasaurs: Lol.
Sonicdustin: ok, that's why people won't beleive you
Godzillasaurs: It says website notresponding though...
Godzillasaurs: xD
Godzillasaurs: And iknow.. becuase they will think imma turd.
Sonicdustin: Shit, why not try s2b?
Sonicdustin: Im starting to find it hard to believe you are 21.....
Godzillasaurs: Here I might eventually copy and paste my user name...
Godzillasaurs: Web Site Not Responding The web site you have requested may be experiencing technical difficulties due to a busy or broken server.
Please try again by clicking the Reload icon on your navigation bar or, if that doesn't work, you may want to return to the site at a later time.
502 Connection Hangup
Godzillasaurs: That message came up though.
Godzillasaurs: THe site won't work.
Sonicdustin: ok, try S2B
Godzillasaurs: No I mean for the whole site.
Godzillasaurs: not just the username...
Godzillasaurs: I havn't even got to the board home...
Godzillasaurs: Lol.
Sonicdustin: I know, the whole entire site isn't up yet, just a temp board
Godzillasaurs: I mean I can't acess the board.
Godzillasaurs: At all.
Sonicdustin: (Link: http://s2beta.com<----------...lt;----------GO THERE!
Sonicdustin: shit
Sonicdustin: (Link: http://s2beta.com)http://s2beta.com
Sonicdustin: go there
Sonicdustin: Im sure you can easily pass that test
Godzillasaurs: OHHHHHHHHH, I thought it was I meant like using that as a user name. xD
Sonicdustin: Unfortunetely, I didnt get accepted
Sonicdustin: You only have 20 posts to prove you aren't a fucktard
Sonicdustin: It shouldnt be a problem
Sonicdustin: PICK A GOOD USERNAME!!!
Sonicdustin: Also, if you could pick out any magazine articles and confirm some things, that would be great
Godzillasaurs: Okie.
Sonicdustin: like this page here
Sonicdustin: (Link: http://s2beta.com/magpics1)http...g:1124/magpics1
Godzillasaurs: Yep, they got the right tricaratops.
Sonicdustin: Yes, we know about the enemy, its in a few hacks found through digging through the beta ROM
Godzillasaurs: Oh.
Sonicdustin: This site will tell you about the prototype we have, and you can confirm what is the same
Godzillasaurs: Okie.
Sonicdustin: Like the level select, is that A+Start?
Sonicdustin: Oh! Can you break the emerald in Hidden palace?
Godzillasaurs: Nope, I don't know how to in the version I have.... that's one of the glitches... Lol.
Godzillasaurs: OMG Theya actually have the Sonic 2 Beta Desert Island Picture!
Godzillasaurs: Wow! x_x
Sonicdustin: Yup!
Sonicdustin: Its a mock up we think, is it true?
Godzillasaurs: Yeah it is!
Sonicdustin: Or is the game engine like that?
Godzillasaurs: No, that's the real level!
Sonicdustin: that's not what I mean, is Sonic sprite always zipping to the right like that?
Godzillasaurs: ANother Bug/GLitch.
Sonicdustin: I see
Godzillasaurs: Kind of like sometimes were sonic cant Jump without Turning into the ball...
Godzillasaurs: Yeah, That was on of the design flaws.
Sonicdustin: Yea, I remember that
Godzillasaurs: But actually in that picture....
Godzillasaurs: SOnic was bouncing off the cactus
Godzillasaurs: See the little Green sparkles
Sonicdustin: yeah?
Sonicdustin: Are there title cards?
Sonicdustin: But really, overall is this an older or nwer prototype?
Sonicdustin: *newer
Sonicdustin: hello?
Godzillasaurs: AHH You gotts forgive me my computer won't stop freezing up. ._.
Sonicdustin: I understand, my computer sucks too
Godzillasaurs: And well the prototype you seem to have...
Sonicdustin: Is later?
Godzillasaurs: It sounds like the new one, if it does not have dust hill zone.
Sonicdustin: Ok, that makes perfect sense
Sonicdustin: Like I said, were there title cards?
Godzillasaurs: Hmm... yeah... but they were pretty much glitched up and stuff.
Sonicdustin: What did they look like?
Sonicdustin: And id like to dub this now as an Alpha version
Godzillasaurs: Lol, it's kind of hard to tell... messed up blocks I guess... but I am assuming that is the title cards, and okay.
Sonicdustin: Now is Casino Night more or less complete?
Godzillasaurs: Hey can I have the Sonic 2 prototype on the sonic 2 beta to determine what is real and what is not scince your sounds diffrent then the pirate ones I have played.
Godzillasaurs: *?
Sonicdustin: Sure, its a free download
Godzillasaurs: Oh okie.
Sonicdustin: While your at it, you should check out some of the hacks weve made, they seem to Remake some of the old levels well
Sonicdustin: or missing/cut, whatever you wanna call em
Godzillasaurs: SUre.
Godzillasaurs: Are those in the save states?
Sonicdustin: They should be in the actual hacks, what emulator are you using?
Godzillasaurs: And don't worry I have a Gens Sega genesis emulater for trying to find hackas of the missing teenage mutant ninja turtles from sonic crackers...
Sonicdustin: Ah, I see
Sonicdustin: I think the prototype zones section is for you if you want to compare levels
Godzillasaurs: Okie.
Godzillasaurs: HOld on I'll go check.
Sonicdustin: k
Sonicdustin: I've been working out a hack of my own, I've managed to at least completely restore Hidden Palace
Sonicdustin: Oh!, is tails in your Alpha?
Godzillasaurs: No.
Sonicdustin: hell, that seems to prove it to me
Sonicdustin: I have to go to bed at 10, will you be on tommorow?
Godzillasaurs: Yeah, probably.
*** Godzillasaurs signed on at Mon Sep 13 20:54:08 2004.
Sonicdustin: So thers still a boss in Green Hill?
Godzillasaurs: Yeah.
Godzillasaurs: Its the same as the final version.
Sonicdustin: But with different enemies?
Godzillasaurs: Yeah, exactly.
Sonicdustin: Hill Top
Godzillasaurs: Yes
Sonicdustin: It has green balls instead of ball enemies?
Godzillasaurs: Yeah.
Godzillasaurs: And btw The dust hill boss is so funny xD
Sonicdustin: But before you said there wasn't a boss......
Godzillasaurs: When?
Godzillasaurs: OHHHHHH
Sonicdustin: Anyway then, what is it?
Godzillasaurs: Yeah I know
Godzillasaurs: SOmetimes the game freezes up when you get to it...
Sonicdustin: interesting.....
Godzillasaurs: and it's robotnick in a giant glitches Catcus.
Godzillasaurs: **Glitched
Sonicdustin: .....wtf
Godzillasaurs: It can shoot thorns...
Godzillasaurs: In like the same speed and it looks exactly the same as the shooters in aquatic mine.
Godzillasaurs: **Aquatic RUins
Godzillasaurs: My bad.
Sonicdustin: Either one works, in your case, Neo Green Hill
Godzillasaurs: Yep.
Sonicdustin: Do you hav a dial up connection?
Godzillasaurs: But actually... why I did not say neo green hill was becuase... there are no shooters...
Godzillasaurs: and I use a LAN connection.
Sonicdustin: Ok, so do I
Sonicdustin: Heh, this whole conversation is documented on a notepad document somwhere in my messengers folder
Godzillasaurs: Ohhh, Cool.
Godzillasaurs: Your gunna put this for sonic 2 beta page right?
Sonicdustin: I would, but I didnt pass the test
Sonicdustin: I could E-mail Simon Wai, but I don't think he'll believe somone like me.....
Godzillasaurs: If you are gunna put it on another sonic site, THank you very much for doing it though.
Godzillasaurs: ANd Oh.
Sonicdustin: Ill put it on one of them, that's for sure
Sonicdustin: huh?
Godzillasaurs: Okie then.
Sonicdustin: Is there any other significant details?
Sonicdustin: Also, any other prototypes you forgot to tell us about?
Godzillasaurs: Nope.
Godzillasaurs: All the ones listed from what I posted are all.
Godzillasaurs: That I know of.
Sonicdustin: And please, don't conveniently BREAK or LOSE the game, this is very important
Godzillasaurs: I Know... I have it locked up in a Small safe along with sonic CD Beta 720, and sonic Crackers.
Godzillasaurs: It's perfectly safe.
Sonicdustin: Ok
Sonicdustin: Now if we get it dumped, im not sure if you could get the cart back
Sonicdustin: And that it would work
Godzillasaurs: Okie.
Sonicdustin: Just so you know
Sonicdustin: And get a disposible camera or something
Sonicdustin: We need pics!
Godzillasaurs: Okie.
Sonicdustin: Do you have work or money btw?
Godzillasaurs: Yeah.
Sonicdustin: h/o, theres a boss in CPZ?
Godzillasaurs: Yes...
Godzillasaurs: It is the same boss as the final version...
Sonicdustin: ...Youre forgetting to tell me things now
Godzillasaurs: But once you beat robotnick... the ink bomb slplatters on his face.
Godzillasaurs: And what things?
Sonicdustin: First it says theres only a boss on the first level, now thers a boss on 3 levels, WTF?
Sonicdustin: And this is looking fake, how is mystic cave called mystic cave when it was dust hill in our prototype?!?
Godzillasaurs: Lol, I DUnno, I swear im telling the truth... Maybe there is something wrong?
Godzillasaurs: Here by tomarrow I will try to find pictures.
Sonicdustin: meh
Sonicdustin: ok, please try your best
Godzillasaurs: And I will try to get a new scanner...
Godzillasaurs: Okie I will.
Sonicdustin: I dunno, your beta could just be really weird, and all the research over the years could be proven fake instantly
Godzillasaurs: Yeah I know.
Sonicdustin: Damn! How many sonic betas do you have?
Godzillasaurs: Only 1! xD
Sonicdustin: Then what's with the Sonic Adventure betas?
Godzillasaurs: Very glitchy, nothing special at all except a hidden room... I have a wav file of it when I still had my microphone... I'll send it.
Sonicdustin: I cant recieve files
Godzillasaurs: Ohhh.
Sonicdustin: Can you upload it?
Sonicdustin: 1asphost.com is a good place
Godzillasaurs: I'll try.
Sonicdustin: Make sure you can prove the pictures are real too, someone made a great sonic 1 beta hoax that was very convincing
Sonicdustin: Do you know anything about a flaming skeleton boss?
Godzillasaurs: Yeah there was something about it
Sonicdustin: I mean, in any games you mighve played
Godzillasaurs: Hmmm... no.
Sonicdustin: ok
Godzillasaurs: Here im gunna go play some of it, take pics, and go find a new scanner... ill be back tomarrow, I promise.... Bye Bye
*** Godzillasaurs signed off at Mon Sep 13 21:23:28 2004.
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DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT CONTACT THE OWNER!
I will be talking to him again tommorow, be patient

im calling 'bullshit' here, but hey who am I to argue? I've been in the community 2 and a half years and this is a classic OH NOS BAETATATA!!1 situation.
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