[djdocsonic]

I placed a flicky container and it ended the level as per normal and took me to HPZ 2. Interesting that in Debug all the objects are still ok and not the Glitched OOZ ones like in S2 Final.... looks as if they had just about pulled the zone. This also appears to be the proto AFTER the Sega Solid Gold Guide and its possibly the same one used in a French Proto video with the same title screen with the 1 Player and 2 Player selections (this video didnt show Hidden Palace Zone)..

[Esrael]

Hidden Palace Colision is Still in this version.

I Made a Save State with Tiles Restored

Items restored in this Save State

Tiles 8x8
Blocks 16x16
Chuncks 128x128
Level Layout

Sonic 2 Beta 4 Save State

[evilhamwizard]

Wow. Didn't know it was worked on this much after the Beta. Tube goes somewhere now.

This is awsome work Esrael, thanks.

This post has been edited by Kool-Aid-Man: 24 February 2008 - 08:06 AM

[87th]

If you hold right while starting HPZ Act 2, you land on something. Can anyone figure out some sort of layout from the collision data?

[Esrael]

[evilhamwizard]

Heh, knew the layout was familiar. :P

I kinda realized that when I saw what was on the other side of the tube.

[GeneHF]

Because it'd have been very creepy if HPZ just happened to be worked on and had Esrael's Delta HPZ layout 16 years ago. =P

[STE]

Great, thanks to Esrael's Save State, I can explore this beta even more throrouly. Could there possibly be a way to Port the WZ from Sonic 2 Delta into a Save State for S2B 4?

[Waluigi Prower]

It's impossible to clear the 4th special stage without cheating, they only give you 42 rings in the first third of the stage, and it requires 45 to pass.

[Yoshi 15]

Tails was able to destroy that grey statue thingy in ARZ and got the collision glitch:

This post has been edited by Yoshi: 24 February 2008 - 10:45 AM

[JoseTB]

Ah I already missed the fun of fixing relative branches by hand =P

Anyhow, it turns out super sonic is not all that finished as I thought. Here's how to restore it:

Go to $16AB8, and type there:

4EF900100000

Then, add this at $100000:

4A28003C672C323CFC000828000600226704323CFE00B26800126F0E1038F6020200007066043141
00124A28001267184E754A280039660E0C68F04000126C06317CF04000124E754A38FE1966160C380
007FFB0660E0C780032FE2065064EF90001082A4E75

For the curious, this replaces the subroutine that controls the speed cap of the jump. The difference with the original code is that in this one the branch to check and trigger the transformation is present. Note that I added the 50 rings and 7 emeralds check myself; which doesn't mean that this is how the transformation was supossed to be triggered in this build. I used FFB0 because this one is used as opposed to FFB1 in later builds.

Then, use this PAR code for the emeralds:

FFFFB0:0007

Get 50 rings, and jump as usual.

Nearly nothing super sonic related is coded in the object, which translates in:
- You can be hit and lose rings as usual
- The ring counter doesn't drop
- 0 rings doesn't make you go back to the normal form. There's nothing to trigger the detransformation - althought the code for this is also there.

However, other things such as fixing the speed for the super form whenever it changes ARE present in the character object, so we can assume it was half-implemented in this build.

I'm still unsure about the code not beginning triggered at all without hacking though. It might be called with a different event in this build, but I have yet to find it.

More info as I find it.

Edit 1: The code was written to be called externally, so it was definitively triggered with something else. I believe it could be a removed monitor, but I can't say this for sure yet.

This post has been edited by JoseTB: 24 February 2008 - 12:02 PM

[GARY M 9]

The lasers in WFZ don't make any noise, probably because their sound bytes were not made during this build of the game.

"Night Time" mode is still accessible by holding C when a level is starting. So this will be good for distinguishing if Plane A and Plane B objects are different in this version than the final for most levels.

This post has been edited by GARY 'M 9: 24 February 2008 - 11:15 AM

[Oerg866]

Hm, I thought I'd write a list of offsets that contain nemesis compressed art.

Compressed Art is on the following places
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000E1E6A	
000E1ED2	
000E2362

[Aquaslash]

Scarred Sun, on Feb 23 2008, 07:34 PM, said:

- All rings lost after special stage

That happens in the final unless you're knuckles.

[Overlord]

No-one seems to have mentioned it, but it's in the above special stage screenshots - Tails is refered to as Miles everywhere (and up as far as at least Beta 8, I think) by default still.