[Molotok]

I based my theory on Sonic 1's (Green Hill 00, Labyrinth Zone 01 [with act 4 being Scrap Brain Zone act 3], Marble Zone 02, Star Light Zone 03, Spring Yard Zone 04, and Scrap Brain Zone 05 [with act 3 being Final Zone]) and Sonic 3's level IDs (Angel Island 00, Hydrocity 01, Marble Garden 02, Carnival Night 03, Flying Battery 04, Ice Cap 05, Launch Base 06, Azure Lake 0E, Balloon Park 0F, Chrome Gadget 10, Desert Palace 11, Endless Mine 12, Bonus Stage 13, 07 to 0D and 14 to 17 are empty).

So, if I understand correctly from both of your posts, Wood Zone occupies two level IDs? 02 as stated on this site and 03 as was just pointed out?

[Quickman]

Was WZ 02? Oh...my memory fails me. In which case we know 03 to be unused. Apologies.

[Wetflame]

I remember there being a reason suggested as to why 03 could be the desert stage.

[Trigahd]

Ketsuban, on Jan 22 2005, 07:03 PM, said:

Trigahd, on Jan 22 2005, 11:42 PM, said:

It's suspected that Wood, Desert, and Winter Zones occupied those spots.

No it isn't.

Slot 01 is unused.
Slot 03 is Wood Zone.
Slot 09 is unused.

It's not "suspected" that the unused two were ever anything.

You're probably right. I suspected it to be those, so I should've known better. Man, I'm out of it these days.

[McAleeCh]

Trigahd, on Jan 22 2005, 11:47 PM, said:

Ketsuban, on Jan 22 2005, 07:03 PM, said:

Trigahd, on Jan 22 2005, 11:42 PM, said:

It's suspected that Wood, Desert, and Winter Zones occupied those spots.

No it isn't.

Slot 01 is unused.
Slot 03 is Wood Zone.
Slot 09 is unused.

It's not "suspected" that the unused two were ever anything.

You're probably right. I suspected it to be those, so I should've known better. Man, I'm out of it these days.

...Wood Zone is ID 02. ID 03 just plays the music used in the final's OOZ, while Sonic and Tails fall to their doom. =P

[Wetflame]

http://database.sson...hp/Desert_level

Yep, Iceknight doesn't force his opinions down people's throats. At all.

Let's pick this apart, shall we?

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The lost desert level, referred to as Sabaku (Desert) Zone in a very early enemy sketch sheet, is a widely speculated debate centered around the images above — Sonic in a mock-up desert type level. This level is also known and mistakenly referred to as Dust Hill Zone.

Uh, no. Opinion, not fact Iceknight. If you can't tell the difference, you should just quit while you're "ahead".

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The first interview conducted by Deviance on February 2001 to Brenda Ross, the artist who oversaw the art production of the desert level, is deemed unreliable, so confirmation by Brenda on whether the desert level was called "Dust Hill" is sketchy, mainly from the bombardment of e-mails asking about the level and it's name "Dust Hill".

Again, there are many other theories.

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Brenda Ross herself has never called this zone "Dust Hill". As mentioned in the interview conducted by Wetflame on September 2004. She has called it "the desert level" or "the desert zone".

Okay, forcing your opinion on one thing but using *my* fucking interview to do so is going one step too far. I asked her if she thought it was called Dust Hill before anyone had influenced her, and she said she thought so. Think what you like, but let people have their opinions.

I tried to fix this up, and add in some opposing theories, but ScarredSun LOCKED the fucking Wiki so nobody can have an opposing say in it.

Oh, but SS, thanks for that actually - now Iceknight can't cover his tracks

This post has been edited by Wetflame: 27 January 2005 - 09:03 PM

[Qjimbo]

Yeah ICEKnight should've taken more care to be less biased, because that wiki article comes across like he's trying to monopolize everyone's opinion.

[ICEknight]

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ICEknightICEknightICEknightICEknightICEknightICEknight

Hey guys, I'm really sorry if I'm the one you think of each time somebody does something you don't agree with.

[Qjimbo]

Oh you didn't write the article? Well whoever did should've been less biased then. Sorry :ph34r:

[ICEknight]

As seen in the "history" section, that article was built on many people's contributions, not just mine.

For example, see all those things in wetflame's humongous post? Well, I don't think I'm responsible for any of those.

[Wetflame]

Dammit >:| Unless I can trace your IP I can't prove a thing. Bleh.
Still, I don't see anyone else doing it >:|

Well, for now you're just "irritating", this whoever this person is is a "right bollox". The IP could be canadian, or it could be some totally different ISP. I can't tell for sure. But if you were going to a place like that you'd cover with a proxy anyway >.< I got nothing.
Although the company tht provides it does also have properties in Spain >:| I'm probably reading this all wrong anyway -_-

This post has been edited by Wetflame: 28 January 2005 - 03:46 PM

[Simon]

Wetflame's version on Wiki SHIT said:

Unfortunately, many DHG=MCZ people tend

Of course it got reverted and locked.... Dust Hill Guy = Mystic Cave Zone?? :P

[Qjimbo]

I've tried to give a summary of this whole debate on my site here:
http://www.randomson...page=sonic2.php

Please let me know if you want me to add anything, and sorry for stealing your art ICEKnight *evil laugh*

[ICEknight]

QJimbo, on Jan 28 2005, 11:14 PM, said:

I've tried to give a summary of this whole debate on my site here:
http://www.randomson...page=sonic2.php

Please let me know if you want me to add anything, and sorry for stealing your art ICEKnight *evil laugh*

Stealing? It's in there for sharing so you can put it in your site if you like... Plus, it's not "my" art. =|

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ICEKnight decided for that second interview to whip the one phrase "I always called it the desert zone or desert level" totally out of context, to give the impression that that was the only thing she said

Please remove the false accusations. I used that sentence only because that's the only relevant thing that was said in the aim chat (everything else had been said in the past).

Also, as I've already said before, you can't put that sentence "out of context" since it has a very specific meaning. She thought the name could have been Dust Hill, but she knew she hadn't used that name, ever.

[Wetflame]

Iceknight, that's the thing. You always woo people to your opinions by taking the little pieces of infos (I always call it desert zone, Desert zone Kanji) thus blowing it up and making it look the whole picture.

Please, stop doing that :/