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Emulation of the original Xbox. Is it still going nowhere?

#1 User is offline MarzSyndrome 

Posted 09 February 2015 - 07:04 PM

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I was pondering this earlier. We're talking about a 13/14-year old console that was discontinued 8 years ago. There was talk of one potential emulator project - Cxbx - and that was about it.

Fast forward to today, and while we're enjoying putting our ninja computers to the test with pumped up Dolphin and PCSX2 setups, the Xbox has more or less been ignored. EmuCR posts occasional new builds of Cxbx, but from word of mouth these don't seem to have improved on the progress of Xbox emulation very much, if at all.

You would've thought it'd be especially easy to get up and running on today's x86-based architecture. Is it just lack of motivation or documentation involved?

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Lack of motivation is certainly a huge aspect of it. Virtually every worthwhile game on the thing is already playable on another system. Both Halo games can be played on PC at higher resolution (and now on Xbox One), Shenmue II is on Dreamcast, Forza has been improved in every meaningful way in its sequels... what does that leave? Fuzion Frenzy? It was good, but people have bad memories because of its sequel, and it alone isn't worth emulating the Xbox for.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the original Xbox emulated if only for the sake of preservation, but I can totally see why most people wouldn't bother. I mean seriously, even the Wii U, which people still seem to think has no library, has more worthwhile exclusives.

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Panzer Dragoon Saga and JSRF are two big reasons why Xbox emulation should exist.

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Blinx the Time Sweeper, anyone? Oh? Just me? Well alright then.


I really wonder what type of hardcore coding really goes into projects like this. Emulators are pretty amazing, but they must be a massive pain to code.

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Metal Wolf Chaos. I so want to play that again. Maybe with the menus translated.

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View PostPexs, on 09 February 2015 - 08:54 PM, said:

Blinx the Time Sweeper, anyone? Oh? Just me? Well alright then.


Blinx is awesome, and anyone who disagrees is clearly misguided.

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What about OddWorld : Crunch's Odyssey, or did that get a PC port? There's also the first Fable and its expansion, which I've heard people say is better than the newer Fables. (C'mon, dog, stop digging up used condoms.) The PC ports of Halo also chop out split-screen modes, and the first Halo didn't even have culling implemented. Combat Evolved on the PC was a turd port in some respects.

On the other hand, most major hits on the XBOX came to other systems. I can see why there isn't enough motivation to write an emulator, when most reasons to run an XBOX emulator isn't that high compared to a Gamecube or Wii.

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MAME has some limited Chihiro emulation, which has mostly the same hardware as the Xbox. Don't know if it was based on Cxbx progress or done independently.

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I read this the other week regarding XBOX emulation on why the development of it is slow.

http://pulp365.com/2...xbox-emulation/

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The road to becoming an experienced enough programmer to participate in emulator development is fraught with peril. Ultimately, I don't think it is for me, but I so wish it was because the Xbox would have as much attention as I could give it. It's essentially a Dreamcast 2 for people like us.

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View PostAerosol, on 09 February 2015 - 10:42 PM, said:

The road to becoming an experienced enough programmer to participate in emulator development is fraught with peril. Ultimately, I don't think it is for me, but I so wish it was because the Xbox would have as much attention as I could give it. It's essentially a Dreamcast 2 for people like us.


It really is a Dreamcast 2. The controller is a cross between the Saturn and Dreamcast, it was online-focused like the Dreamcast, and it shared hardware with a Sega arcade board (albeit the arcade board being based on the Xbox). That and being home to the eccentric kind of games that were previously appearing on the Dreamcast, like Voodoo Vince and Kung Fu Chaos, continuing favourite Sega franchises in JSRF and Orta, and cementing its arcade-ness with Tetris World and Ultra Bust-A-Move (remember this is before the digital download era).

I just wish the 360 had gone in the same direction.


I'd love to be able to participate in this, but I wouldn't have a clue where to start...

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In my list Orta, Dead or Alive 3/Ultimate, Ninja Gaiden Black( I'm aware of Sigma for PS3), maybe TJ&E 3.

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I skipped the Xbox on account of Microsoft anti-fanboyism, but I wouldn't mind giving Blinx and Rare's Xbox line-up a try. As for the Sega stuff, considering I grew up on Nintendo and didn't know the Dreamcast existed until after it died, I have plenty of earlier games to play via Dreamcast Emulation before I get to xbox-exclusive sequels. Now, if I just had the vision to get started on those Dreamcast gems.

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What I feel like is going to happen is that because an Xbox emulator alone doesn't seem to be worked on, a 360 emulator is going to be made in the near future, and any OG Xbox games compatible with that will work.

That seems like the more likely option, because it would be for 2 entire system libraries, and not just one.

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View PostRGamer2009, on 10 February 2015 - 11:05 AM, said:

What I feel like is going to happen is that because an Xbox emulator alone doesn't seem to be worked on, a 360 emulator is going to be made in the near future, and any OG Xbox games compatible with that will work.

That seems like the more likely option, because it would be for 2 entire system libraries, and not just one.


I don't think it's that simple.

Also, it's already two entire system libraries - Xbox, and Chihiro. Hurry up and let me play Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune at home already.

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