[High Fidelity]

RenyNoise, on 27 January 2015 - 04:35 PM, said:

Anyone can be a track star with the right motivation, ever been chased by a dog?

I have, and it's scary. I can remember at sports day when I was a kid running with my arms behind me à la Sonic CD. I can comment that it doesn't work in real life, you just look like an idiot. And it fucks up your balance.

[RenyNoise]

High Fidelity, on 27 January 2015 - 05:00 PM, said:

RenyNoise, on 27 January 2015 - 04:35 PM, said:

Anyone can be a track star with the right motivation, ever been chased by a dog?

I have, and it's scary.

I'll bet you were dippin'. Did you have your arms back when this was going on?

[Ell678]

NioZero, on 27 January 2015 - 02:59 PM, said:

Ell678, on 27 January 2015 - 01:58 PM, said:

I came up with an idea surrounding Silver and his telekinesis.

You know how it's a little ambiguous where / when he came from? Well, he trained as a Jedi for a few years before being tricked by Sidious into coming here and trying to kill Sonic. I noticed it when he lifted things with the power of his mind. He uses the Force. Series over, GG

IIRC, Silver's master was Mammoth Mogul (in the comics) but I cannot remember where he obtained his powers or if was mentioned in the comic...

You're right, he then went to Coruscant to perfect his training. I forgot his super secret origin story arc.

[High Fidelity]

RenyNoise, on 27 January 2015 - 05:08 PM, said:

High Fidelity, on 27 January 2015 - 05:00 PM, said:

RenyNoise, on 27 January 2015 - 04:35 PM, said:

Anyone can be a track star with the right motivation, ever been chased by a dog?

I have, and it's scary.

I'll bet you were dippin'. Did you have your arms back when this was going on?

You do dip ever so slightly on straight ground, but it's fine on hills and small inclines as your center of balance is shifted.

4 trial posts left, and I just wasted another one

This post has been edited by High Fidelity: 27 January 2015 - 06:19 PM

[.Luke]

Dark Sonic, on 27 January 2015 - 01:39 PM, said:

RenyNoise, on 27 January 2015 - 12:00 PM, said:

Felik, on 27 January 2015 - 08:29 AM, said:

It's a videogame

That's the logic I've been using for years. Shall we discuss how Tails can even fly exactly?

Overlord, on 27 January 2015 - 03:26 PM, said:

Covarr, on 27 January 2015 - 11:31 AM, said:

But Eggman can run as fast as Sonic.

"How? That's easy. It's fear. Picture this:

You're an industrialist, trying to modernize a backward planet and raise up standards of living through the use of technology, for the common good. One day, some of your industrial robots are blown up by a sentient, supersonic blue hedgehog. That's scary as fuck. Now, said hedgehog has it in his head that you're a monster who's turning animals into robots and wants to take over the world and oppress it, in large part because of all the steroids, speed, colloidal silver, and other assorted shit he's been taking in massive quantities for the past decade. You decide to see if you can't reason with the guy, but for your troubles you get assaulted, and your ride gets trashed beyond recognition.

So you decide to deal with this like you would with any other pest problems: You put out some traps, like spike pits, modify a couple of your robots with .22 rifles, etc. The way you'd deal with any rodent, really. Soon enough, the hedgehog gets himself impaled, and you're done. Or so you think. Soon after, despite having quite clearly been drained of his precious bodily fluids, he's back and trashing your robots again. Maybe the other one was some sort of decoy? No matter, you're taking this into your own hands. You modify your ride, mad max style, adding a couple of guns, some spikes, missile, slowly swinging giant balls, that kind of stuff. Then you roll. You meet the hedgehog and after a brief struggle where he manages to make one or two lucky hits on spots you haven't really bothered armoring, you make him into thin gruel. This time you're sure he's done for.

How wrong you are. Soon after, he's back. You can't believe it. You try to kill him yourself once more, but this time he seems to know where to strike. He seems to know when to strike. He seems to know when you'll strike. Once you realize that, you try to change your attack patterns, but it's too late, he's done enough damage to blow up your vehicle, and you barely escape with your life. For the next few days, he follows you, destroying everything you throw at him, and it's obvious he won't stop until he gets you. You can't sleep. You watch as he destroys everything you've done to help people: one after another, chemical plants, oil refineries, amusement parks, all you've built, gets blown up by this satanic, unholy, immortal demon from the deepest pits of hell. When you do manage to take him out, he's back within hours.

Eventually, as you're trying to escape to the one place where you think you're safe, space, he defeats one of your latest creation, and for the first time, you're face to face with him. There's no steel plate protecting you. There's no vertical distance. He's there, staring at you with those empty, demonic eyes.

You run like you've never run before. You just fucking run."

I got a good laugh out of all those! Totally saving that post to a text file, Overlord.

This is why I don't think too hard about the logic in Sonic. The series was originally and intentionally left ambiguous enough for each region to mold Sonic into however he needed to appeal in each market. Some see Sonic as cute, or an asshole, or the ultimate force of good in his world. We could probably come up with ten theories about his speed, and still only come close to matching one officially recognized continuity or the other, instead of the universal answer that applies to all of them.

Although it couldn't hurt to give the Tumblr side of the fanbase a crack at it. The Tumblr community in general enjoys over-thinking trivial fictional factoids like this, so the rest of the world doesn't have to. *bricked*

[JaredAFX]

Congrats, Overlord. That made my day like you wouldn't believe XD

I don't really question this sort of stuff. I question the continuity they try to throw into these games and fail miserably at, whether they were trying to piece it together or not depending on the game (ex. you gave Shadow his own game and shed more light on his backstory. You don't get to retroactively change the story around). I'm still waiting for an actual explanation as to why the moon isn't blown up, and I'm sorry for acting like a prick, but I want something better than "the moon is facing the other direction" or "the developers aren't the same as the SA2 developers and just don't know about it."

[DigitalDuck]

JaredAFX, on 27 January 2015 - 08:43 PM, said:

I'm still waiting for an actual explanation as to why the moon isn't blown up, and I'm sorry for acting like a prick, but I want something better than "the moon is facing the other direction" or "the developers aren't the same as the SA2 developers and just don't know about it."

That's no moon...

[Overlord]

JaredAFX, on 27 January 2015 - 08:43 PM, said:

Congrats, Overlord. That made my day like you wouldn't believe XD

I'd love to take the credit, but the reason it was in quotes & italics was because I found that on the web years ago, and I too saved it. =P

[Retroman]

Covarr, on 27 January 2015 - 11:31 AM, said:

But Eggman can run as fast as Sonic.

Eggman's shoes are robotic

.Luke, on 27 January 2015 - 07:42 PM, said:

Dark Sonic, on 27 January 2015 - 01:39 PM, said:

RenyNoise, on 27 January 2015 - 12:00 PM, said:

Felik, on 27 January 2015 - 08:29 AM, said:

It's a videogame

That's the logic I've been using for years. Shall we discuss how Tails can even fly exactly?

Overlord, on 27 January 2015 - 03:26 PM, said:

Covarr, on 27 January 2015 - 11:31 AM, said:

But Eggman can run as fast as Sonic.

"How? That's easy. It's fear. Picture this:

You're an industrialist, trying to modernize a backward planet and raise up standards of living through the use of technology, for the common good. One day, some of your industrial robots are blown up by a sentient, supersonic blue hedgehog. That's scary as fuck. Now, said hedgehog has it in his head that you're a monster who's turning animals into robots and wants to take over the world and oppress it, in large part because of all the steroids, speed, colloidal silver, and other assorted shit he's been taking in massive quantities for the past decade. You decide to see if you can't reason with the guy, but for your troubles you get assaulted, and your ride gets trashed beyond recognition.

So you decide to deal with this like you would with any other pest problems: You put out some traps, like spike pits, modify a couple of your robots with .22 rifles, etc. The way you'd deal with any rodent, really. Soon enough, the hedgehog gets himself impaled, and you're done. Or so you think. Soon after, despite having quite clearly been drained of his precious bodily fluids, he's back and trashing your robots again. Maybe the other one was some sort of decoy? No matter, you're taking this into your own hands. You modify your ride, mad max style, adding a couple of guns, some spikes, missile, slowly swinging giant balls, that kind of stuff. Then you roll. You meet the hedgehog and after a brief struggle where he manages to make one or two lucky hits on spots you haven't really bothered armoring, you make him into thin gruel. This time you're sure he's done for.

How wrong you are. Soon after, he's back. You can't believe it. You try to kill him yourself once more, but this time he seems to know where to strike. He seems to know when to strike. He seems to know when you'll strike. Once you realize that, you try to change your attack patterns, but it's too late, he's done enough damage to blow up your vehicle, and you barely escape with your life. For the next few days, he follows you, destroying everything you throw at him, and it's obvious he won't stop until he gets you. You can't sleep. You watch as he destroys everything you've done to help people: one after another, chemical plants, oil refineries, amusement parks, all you've built, gets blown up by this satanic, unholy, immortal demon from the deepest pits of hell. When you do manage to take him out, he's back within hours.

Eventually, as you're trying to escape to the one place where you think you're safe, space, he defeats one of your latest creation, and for the first time, you're face to face with him. There's no steel plate protecting you. There's no vertical distance. He's there, staring at you with those empty, demonic eyes.

You run like you've never run before. You just fucking run."

I got a good laugh out of all those! Totally saving that post to a text file, Overlord.

This is why I don't think too hard about the logic in Sonic. The series was originally and intentionally left ambiguous enough for each region to mold Sonic into however he needed to appeal in each market. Some see Sonic as cute, or an asshole, or the ultimate force of good in his world. We could probably come up with ten theories about his speed, and still only come close to matching one officially recognized continuity or the other, instead of the universal answer that applies to all of them.

Although it couldn't hurt to give the Tumblr side of the fanbase a crack at it. The Tumblr community in general enjoys over-thinking trivial fictional factoids like this, so the rest of the world doesn't have to. />/> *bricked*

Best explanation for Tails's tail is this.

Animals don't have a tail made just of flesh. Like horses, It's made of bone too. Our favourite, infamous anthro yellow two-tailed fox's tail is multi-jointed. He must regularly train in yoga or something to get that flexibility.

This post has been edited by Retroman: 29 January 2015 - 02:40 AM

[MamboCat]

High Fidelity, on 27 January 2015 - 12:11 PM, said:

I'm pretty sure that in STC issue #1 (or it could have been the preview issue) Sonic was just a regular hedgehog and Robotnik a regular scientist, working on power sneakers until the treadmill Sonic was testing the sneaks on exploded or something...

Would try and find a link but away from my computer atm.

I think someone already pointed this out but in STC it was issue 8, Origin of Sonic. I can't remember if the Sonic the Podcast guys covered it yet... haven't listened to their chitchats for a while.

But thanks to the Sonic Boom episode discussion over at SSMB I was reminded of the STC issue where Robotnik somehow manages to "steal" Sonic's speed abilities and as a result he becomes blue and spiky and poor Sonic is restored back to his brown form!

Also in Amy's "Secret Past" many, many issues later it's implied that an experiment Robotnik was running is related to the ability stealing gadget; Amy accidentally interrupts him, the gadget explodes and somehow turns Amy Rose pink and gives her the mohawk spikes. But we don't talk about that story! :P


So it always seemed to me in the STC universe anyway, that Sonic being blue and speedy is down to some kind of weird energy that he possesses, but is unrelated to the Chaos energy stuff they wrote about. The idea that it can be stolen and Sonic is useless without it seemed kinda interesting, but they didn't go any further with it. I suppose thank goodness in a way. It was quite convoluted, and adding their version of Super Sonic on top of it! Eeee....

Anyways. Blue hedgehog. Goes fast. Loop-de-loops. :p

This post has been edited by MamboCat: 29 January 2015 - 06:23 PM

[Lostgame]

RenyNoise, on 27 January 2015 - 12:00 PM, said:

Felik, on 27 January 2015 - 08:29 AM, said:

It's a videogame

That's the logic I've been using for years. Shall we discuss how Tails can even fly exactly?

Two tails. Obviously. Pshht.

in b4 'that doesn't answer the question'

This post has been edited by Lostgame: 05 February 2015 - 05:10 PM

[Chilly Willy]

It's obvious how any of the characters in the series run so fast or fly... lots and lots of beans.

[Blackstretch]

I always thought that Sonic's speed just came from training with Dr. Kintobor after he gave him friction-less sneakers...