Sonic and Sega Retro Message Board: Robotnik Returns! - Sonic and Sega Retro Message Board

Jump to content

Hey there, Guest!  (Log In · Register) Help
  • 2 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
    Locked
    Locked Forum

Robotnik Returns! My Hack!

#16 User is offline Clownacy 

Posted 29 July 2014 - 05:31 PM

  • Needs to make an avatar
  • Posts: 309
  • Joined: 06-July 13
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Englandland

View PostXeta, on 29 July 2014 - 04:55 PM, said:

In order to fix the song, you could check out the MegaPCM DAC driver... that should allow you to add the missing sample to the game. Of course, if you don't think you're up to it, you could download this version of the song that has the sample changed.

If I can chime in for a second, it should be possible to add DACs to S1's stock DAC driver. You just need to mind your space. The samples have to be small enough to not push the Z80 DAC driver's size past around $1FFC bytes.

#17 User is offline Xeta 

Posted 29 July 2014 - 06:58 PM

  • コミュニティ謎
  • Posts: 249
  • Joined: 23-April 14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:That box that so frequently gets overlooked.
  • Project:Nothing.
I know you can add the sample, but it would be a real pain... I remember finding out how somewhere, but I hardly understood anything, and MegaPCM is, in my opinion, a better alternative.

#18 User is offline KingofHarts 

Posted 29 July 2014 - 11:05 PM

  • Call me back when people stop shitting in the punch bowl...
  • Posts: 1480
  • Joined: 07-August 10
  • Gender:Male
  • Wiki edits:1
I'm really liking what I see so far. Definitely needs more refinement, but definitely not a bad hack.

#19 User is offline DalekSam 

Posted 29 July 2014 - 11:33 PM

  • Resident Tsundere
  • Posts: 1908
  • Joined: 19-February 08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Northern Ireland, Belfast
  • Project:Sonic Thrash, Sonic Boom, Super Famidev
  • Wiki edits:165

View PostXeta, on 29 July 2014 - 06:58 PM, said:

I know you can add the sample, but it would be a real pain... I remember finding out how somewhere, but I hardly understood anything, and MegaPCM is, in my opinion, a better alternative.

Personally, if you don't mind me chiming in here, but I'm in the camp that believes that you really should only implement something if you're going to make the most out of it. I think changing the music to reflect Sonic 1's stock DAC samples is the better choice here. ;)

Not discouraging the use of MegaPCM, as I think it's certainly an excellent addition to a hack and extremely useful for musicians like me, but sometimes using what you have already isn't a bad idea either.

I'll definitely give this a run through soon, it's nearly 6am here and I'm exhausted as it is! But from the replies here it certainly seems promising, so keep it up. :)

I should also note that the other methods for replacing samples in Sonic 1 that aren't as extensive as implementing MegaPCM go back a good few years, but they've worked for most of us! Puto disassembled the Z80 driver from the original game, if that's the way you want to go (though samples need to be compressed), there's also jman2050's driver and MarkeyJester also made an alternative a few years back, which isn't dissimilar to MegaPCM's ease of use.
This post has been edited by DalekSam: 29 July 2014 - 11:39 PM

#20 User is offline Caverns 4 

Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:39 AM

  • Posts: 271
  • Joined: 07-December 12
  • Gender:Male
  • Project:Sanik Quest: Journey To The Right

View PostXeta, on 29 July 2014 - 01:25 PM, said:

I'd hate for this to be the Into the Void topic all over again.


But the thins is... Into the Void was bad. The level design was sloppy, the palette were bad, bugs, etc.

LONG RANT:
Spoiler


TL;DR:
It's really good, keep up the nice work!

#21 User is offline pacguy 

Posted 30 July 2014 - 02:41 AM

  • ASM amateur
  • Posts: 20
  • Joined: 27-July 14
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Nowhere
  • Project:Robotnik Returns, Buizel in Sonic 2, Untitled S2 hack
I made some graphical updates to Construction Zone, here's a screenshot:

Posted Image

Feel free to tell me what you think :3

#22 User is offline Xeta 

Posted 30 July 2014 - 09:28 AM

  • コミュニティ謎
  • Posts: 249
  • Joined: 23-April 14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:That box that so frequently gets overlooked.
  • Project:Nothing.

View PostCaverns 4, on 30 July 2014 - 01:39 AM, said:

But the thins is... Into the Void was bad. The level design was sloppy, the palette were bad, bugs, etc.

I understand; I've been starting to help him with the hack, so don't worry, you'll probably see some improvements in the future.

View Postpacguy, on 29 July 2014 - 05:16 PM, said:

Thanks for the Fixed song file! It sounds much better :3 But should I credit you on the fix, or did nineko fix it himself?

I made the fix a while back (February? March?) when I didn't have MegaPCM, so you should probably credit nineko for the actual song and me for the fix.

View Postpacguy, on 30 July 2014 - 02:41 AM, said:

I made some graphical updates to Construction Zone, here's a screenshot:

Posted Image

Feel free to tell me what you think :3

Why does it 404?

#23 User is offline MathUser 

Posted 30 July 2014 - 09:48 AM

  • 3rd top wiki contributor
  • Posts: 1902
  • Joined: 09-November 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Wiki edits:14,865
The design for the rope/hook looks pretty good. The rest looks like a building.

#24 User is offline LordOfSquad 

Posted 30 July 2014 - 10:20 AM

  • don't get butthurt if your get memed on
  • Posts: 4056
  • Joined: 19-February 08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Winnipeg, MB
  • Project:Scriptwriting, working, dying.
  • Wiki edits:1
Personally I think it stands out a little too much, it's kind of distracting as a background element. I took a very quick, very rough crack at it myself during my coffee break, feel free to use/alter it if you want.

Posted Image
This post has been edited by LordOfSquad: 30 July 2014 - 10:22 AM

#25 User is offline Tweedle 

Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:25 PM

  • Posts: 8
  • Joined: 15-September 13
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Texas, US
As someone who downloads and tries hacks allot, But doesn't take the time to sit down and play through most of them. I'm really enjoying this Hack, However I'm not a professional so I wouldn't know if it's "badly made", From a casual playing of it I'm having fun and really enjoy the music and levels so far.

Keep up the good work, and Improve if you find it necessary.

#26 User is offline pacguy 

Posted 01 August 2014 - 04:45 PM

  • ASM amateur
  • Posts: 20
  • Joined: 27-July 14
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Nowhere
  • Project:Robotnik Returns, Buizel in Sonic 2, Untitled S2 hack
I made an update! I removed the broken Robotnik monitors, fixed some things, changed the graphics of the cranes based on lord of squads advice, and made a bunch of layout changes to Construction Zone! Check it out!

Download
This post has been edited by pacguy: 01 August 2014 - 09:58 PM

  • 2 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
    Locked
    Locked Forum

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users