[Cooljerk]

I know a lot of people are really dying for more shenmue, but I wonder how many people have followed the series and what has been unearthed since Shenmue II close enough to realize, for example, that the next shenmue was likely going to introduce a number of fantasy elements, like fireballs and flight. Or that the revenge plot against Lan Di was eventually going to be dropped to give way to a larger story.

The first two shenmues are essentially a long prologue to what was supposed to be a high fantasy series. Assuming a Shenmue III ever comes that sticks to the same planned plot, how many people would be pissed?

This post has been edited by Cooljerk: 27 June 2014 - 12:35 PM

[Covarr]

I would rather see Mega64's version produced as a legit sequel with, complete with AAA budget.

[Cooljerk]

Covarr, on 27 June 2014 - 12:42 PM, said:

I would rather see Mega64's version produced as a legit sequel with, complete with AAA budget.

What you don't realize is that the Mega64 version IS Yu Suzuki's version

[Ch1pper]

Having found a Dreamcast a few weeks ago and playing Shenmue, I can enjoy it for what it is.

Assuming your first post is true... Yeah, it would bug me that the franchise would turn into more broad based fantasy after debuting with a game that was so clearly built around extensive use of certain elements of realism. Kind of the opposite of Sonic's setting from the 'classic' era to the Dreamcast, I guess. That said, I'm sure it would be a gradual change throughout the series, like the outright goofy fantasy setting of "exploring the big wide world" in Dragon Ball to the more dramatic sci-fi fantasy setting of "Oh, aliens" in DBZ (and

Spoiler

"Oh, multiverse"

in the latest movie, iirc). So that would certainly help.

Oddly enough, a number of these 'realistic' elements have evolved with video games in such a way that I can easily see why Sega would be so hesitant to release ports of Shenmue to modern gamers without tweaking certain things. I think the required work would be just above "feasible" given the game's cult following, and to release it today as-is (besides possible 16:9 enhancements) would likely turn off the public at large.

I haven't played Shenmue II yet, and from what I understand there may have been some adjustments done in that game that wouldn't alienate as many people, but if the story is a direct continuation, it wouldn't make sense to release them backwards (ala SA2B to SADX on the Gamecube). Maybe Sega could release both games together, but again, with the amount of work required I can't see them taking such a financial risk unless they were certain of it paying off.

[Cooljerk]

Ch1pper, on 27 June 2014 - 05:04 PM, said:

Having found a Dreamcast a few weeks ago and playing Shenmue, I can enjoy it for what it is.

Assuming your first post is true... Yeah, it would bug me that the franchise would turn into more broad based fantasy after debuting with a game that was so clearly built around extensive use of certain elements of realism. Kind of the opposite of Sonic's setting from the 'classic' era to the Dreamcast, I guess. That said, I'm sure it would be a gradual change throughout the series, like the outright goofy fantasy setting of "exploring the big wide world" in Dragon Ball to the more dramatic sci-fi fantasy setting of "Oh, aliens" in DBZ (and

Spoiler

"Oh, multiverse"

in the latest movie, iirc). So that would certainly help.

Oddly enough, a number of these 'realistic' elements have evolved with video games in such a way that I can easily see why Sega would be so hesitant to release ports of Shenmue to modern gamers without tweaking certain things. I think the required work would be just above "feasible" given the game's cult following, and to release it today as-is (besides possible 16:9 enhancements) would likely turn off the public at large.

I haven't played Shenmue II yet, and from what I understand there may have been some adjustments done in that game that wouldn't alienate as many people, but if the story is a direct continuation, it wouldn't make sense to release them backwards (ala SA2B to SADX on the Gamecube). Maybe Sega could release both games together, but again, with the amount of work required I can't see them taking such a financial risk unless they were certain of it paying off.

I like shenmue II way, way more than Shenmue I because it has much more story and moves much more quickly. If Shenmue I was a life simulation for an average person in Japan, Shenmue II is a jackie chan simulator in operation condor. It's got loads more action and you quickly grow into quite the badass. In that regard, you can sort of see how the series would progress. Remember, shenmue, the entire story, is supposed to be 11 chapters long, with shenmue I being chapter 1, and shenmue 2 being chapters 2-4 (IIRC). That leaves 7 other chapters untold.

You can sort of understand where the fantasy elements would have come from with the phoenix mirror stuff. I really like this series.

[Aerosol]

Cooljerk, on 27 June 2014 - 12:34 PM, said:

I know a lot of people are really dying for more shenmue, but I wonder how many people have followed the series and what has been unearthed since Shenmue II close enough to realize, for example, that the next shenmue was likely going to introduce a number of fantasy elements, like fireballs and flight. Or that the revenge plot against Lan Di was eventually going to be dropped to give way to a larger story.

The first two shenmues are essentially a long prologue to what was supposed to be a high fantasy series. Assuming a Shenmue III ever comes that sticks to the same planned plot, how many people would be pissed?

That sounds amazing. I want it.

[Cooljerk]

Aerosol, on 27 June 2014 - 09:15 PM, said:

Cooljerk, on 27 June 2014 - 12:34 PM, said:

I know a lot of people are really dying for more shenmue, but I wonder how many people have followed the series and what has been unearthed since Shenmue II close enough to realize, for example, that the next shenmue was likely going to introduce a number of fantasy elements, like fireballs and flight. Or that the revenge plot against Lan Di was eventually going to be dropped to give way to a larger story.

The first two shenmues are essentially a long prologue to what was supposed to be a high fantasy series. Assuming a Shenmue III ever comes that sticks to the same planned plot, how many people would be pissed?

That sounds amazing. I want it.

Ever seen the trailer for Shenmue Online? It's way overdone, I don't think it'd have been that overt, but it shows some of the fantasy stuff:



Given Shenmue's story telling and the way it payed homage to classic kung fu cinema, it would be interesting to see Shenmue take this direction. The story was already getting really good by the end of Shenmue II.

This post has been edited by Cooljerk: 28 June 2014 - 12:27 AM

[Mykonos]

Well, apparently Suzuki had this slide at one of his recent panels.

Spoiler

And later called it "A joke I made last night"

[Cooljerk]

Mykonos, on 28 June 2014 - 12:43 AM, said:

Well, apparently Suzuki had this slide at one of his recent panels.

Spoiler

And later called it "A joke I made last night"

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http://www.gamereact...a+Shenmue+3%22/

[Aerosol]

That's like the 20th time Yu Suzuki has said he'd be interested in making Shenmue 3, isn't it? Stop being such a bloody tease.

This post has been edited by Aerosol: 28 June 2014 - 02:12 AM

[Cooljerk]

Aerosol, on 28 June 2014 - 02:09 AM, said:

That's like the 20th time Yu Suzuki has said he'd be interested in making Shenmue 3, isn't it? Stop being such a bloody tease.

The problem isn't Yu Suzuki. The problem is getting Sega to give Yu Suzuki money to make Shenmue III. Yu Suzuki keeps saying this to try and make the public put pressure on Sega (or somebody) to fund the thing.

[doc eggfan]

Wasn't there supposed to be like 16 chapters to Shenmue, each set in a different part of the world over all 7 continents? Even if we get #3, there's like another 13 after that to go.

[TimmiT]

doc eggfan, on 01 July 2014 - 04:46 PM, said:

Wasn't there supposed to be like 16 chapters to Shenmue, each set in a different part of the world over all 7 continents? Even if we get #3, there's like another 13 after that to go.

Iirc Shenmue 2 covered multiple chapters, hence why the pacing was so much faster.

This post has been edited by TimmiT: 01 July 2014 - 04:52 PM