[Laura]

I have no idea what to do on this matter so I figured you guys would have the answer!

I got Sonic Adventure DX on Steam (part of a Sonic collection) and was wondering if it is possible to mod it. I'm not talking huge mods here, just simple character swaps (say play as Tails in Sonic's levels).

I've become aware that the trainers, such as MainMemory's, don't work with the Steam version. Is there any patch that fixes this? I downloaded a patch that reverts the game back to the original pc version (which should be moddable) but I can't run in in windowed mode so I can't use the trainers.

Is there any way to fix this, or does Steam SADX and mods simply not mix.

Here's the patch I used:

https://www.youtube....h?v=xd4dKWIarbI

https://www.youtube....h?v=y48vEj0p4jI

[MainMemory]

As I've said before, I am unwilling to do any research into the Steam version. As for your fullscreen problem, it should be as simple as setting "screen" to 0 in sonicDX.ini, or using the SADX Mod Manager's config editor.

[Laura]

I need a US Sonic Adventure DX exe to use your lovely little Mod Loader programme.

Any idea where that is D:

Sorry, found it in one of your old posts on this thread: http://forums.sonicr...showtopic=31836 (first page for anyone possibly reading this). Everything is fixed and working now, I can hack SADX Steam!

MainMemory, you are a true hero of the Sonic fandom!

This post has been edited by Laura: 17 April 2014 - 04:53 PM

[iGamr]

MainMemory, on 17 April 2014 - 04:23 PM, said:

As I've said before, I am unwilling to do any research into the Steam version.

A bit of a shame, given that the Steam version somehow manages to be the one in more dire need of fixing up.

[MainMemory]

That's... kind of the reason why I'm not touching it? Aside from the tediousness of doing all the research over again.

[Trunks]

It'd be great if there were a little utility that compares the files from the Steam version to the old PC version, then just converts the whole thing over to the old PC version. I wonder how big a content patch that'd be.

[muteKi]

iGamr, on 21 April 2014 - 03:53 PM, said:

MainMemory, on 17 April 2014 - 04:23 PM, said:

As I've said before, I am unwilling to do any research into the Steam version.

A bit of a shame, given that the Steam version somehow manages to be the one in more dire need of fixing up.

I disagree -- the biggest flaw unique the Steam version are mostly along the lines of resolution -- the music is all ADX (finally) and some of the shaders that were missing in the older version have made it in (the cave in Lost World is sufficiently dark!). Furthermore, it renders in windowed mode correctly without hacks and doesn't crash when switched away from in fullscreen. Sure, there seems to be some missing chao data, too, but is this really that much of an issue?

Sure, the lack of support for controllers that aren't XInput is disappointing, but using x360ce is not a much more inelegant solution than the workarounds necessary to use an XInput controller in the older version (which didn't even implement the x-axis camera control outside of the keyboard controls).

This post has been edited by muteKi: 22 April 2014 - 10:01 PM

[Laura]

There's quite a simple patch you can get online that essentially turns the Steam SADX into the old PC version.

Since it's so easy to convert the Steam version I don't really think that it's worth MainMemory's time to start from scratch hacking the Steam version.

It's annoying with the music, but, oh well.

[MainMemory]

It is theoretically possible to get the 2004 version to play ADX music, I just haven't figured out how yet.

[Morph]

Laura, on 24 April 2014 - 06:45 AM, said:

There's quite a simple patch you can get online that essentially turns the Steam SADX into the old PC version.

It's not so much a simple patch as it is you pirating the 2004 version with my hack, SADX Fixed Edition, thrown in in some (most) cases, and throwing it on top of the Steam version and hoping for the best.

And to add to what MainMemory said, some of the good things can be theoretically backported to SADX 2004, it'll just take time to figure out. Much less effort than rediscovering EVERYTHING about a semi-botched version of the game. Don't get me wrong, I like the ADX audio, DirectX 9, and xinput support too, but it's not worth the time and effort if it could potentially be reimplemented with less of both.

I do agree that the resolution is one of the most glaring issues with it though. But good luck fixing it! I managed to increase it, but that doesn't account for the scale, FOV, and that stupid border. Windowed mode is still broken though, just less so. I swear Sega doesn't know how to size a window. Play it in a window at say 720p, alt printscreen it, crop the image to the window content, and tell me that's the resolution it should be. :V
Also happens with Sonic CD, SA2, and more!

[winterhell]

Shame. And it only takes half a dozen lines of OpenGL code( probably the same with D3D) to make the game render at arbitrary resolutions, while keeping the HUD scale and everything, and touching the window from inside with a fixed aspect ratio.

[Elliot Gindi]

Does the Steam version have any real advantage?

At some point I read the 2004 version will only do 50fps but that may have been misinformation.

This post has been edited by Elliot Gindi: 23 May 2014 - 05:22 PM

[Morph]

Elliot Gindi, on 23 May 2014 - 05:21 PM, said:

Does the Steam version have any real advantage?

DirectX 9, native looping ADX audio (now available in the 2004 version plus additional video game formats as supported by vgmstream), and native xinput support (which can be implemented into the old version I'm sure).

Assuming xinput gets hacked into the 2004 version, the only thing it has going for it at that point is DirectX 9, which isn't too big of a deal. So no, not really.

Elliot Gindi, on 23 May 2014 - 05:21 PM, said:

At some point I read the 2004 version will only do 50fps but that may have been misinformation.

There is some truth to that. It DOES run at 60FPS, but on certain configurations it would have really weird framerate problems. Back on Windows XP, I simply couldn't get it up to 60FPS... unless I was running Windows Media Player in the background. And coincidentally, it would run anywhere from 30 to 50FPS without it. These days, it's not a problem (unless you happen to still be on XP and in fact have the issue).

[Elliot Gindi]

Wow, thank you for that detailed response. Love the progress on SA2 multiplayer by the way.

Is there a detailed "fix your steam version of SADX" guide anywhere? I used to know one but it got taken down and then the associated download links no longer worked.
To first replace your steam version with the 2004 version, then to get the ADX, XInput etc etc.


I know there's a new mod manager (MainMemory is on a roll) and I'd love to use it for that sweet 1920x1080 borderless window.

[muteKi]

Morph, on 23 May 2014 - 05:54 PM, said:

Elliot Gindi, on 23 May 2014 - 05:21 PM, said:

Does the Steam version have any real advantage?

DirectX 9, native looping ADX audio (now available in the 2004 version plus additional video game formats as supported by vgmstream), and native xinput support (which can be implemented into the old version I'm sure).

Assuming xinput gets hacked into the 2004 version, the only thing it has going for it at that point is DirectX 9, which isn't too big of a deal. So no, not really.

It also has the shadow effect in the middle part of Lost World working (although that effect isn't used anywhere else -- it'd have been welcome in the middle part of Final Egg)