[GeneHF]

I don't know about NEEDS. I basically turned the start screen into a massive start menu with links to my most used applications. That, and I like just hitting the window key to have a quick glance at the temperature outside (the midwest is absolutely bipolar right now and it can be 70 one day, then 35 the next.)

[Overlord]

But a normal desktop widget would do for that. I have one on 7.

Also, there's no point in paying for Start8 even in the interim: http://www.classicshell.net/

[Covarr]

Having used both Start8 and Classic Shell, I stand by my purchase. The latter gets the job done, but it often feels like a poorly tacked-on overlay, with much the same weirdness I sometimes see on custom popups from the system tray. Clicking outside the menu, for example, doesn't always behave quite the way I'd expect (though I'd imagine it's improved in the last year since I tried it before). That said, when I bought Start8 there was no indication MS would ever bring the menu back; at the time there wasn't even a start button. Knowing it'll only matter for another four months, it might not be as worth the purchase now.

[Morph]

StartIsBack master race
Demo, but you can use it as long as you want if you don't mind not having recently used programs after a month.

[SoNick]

GeneHF, on 25 April 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

(the midwest is absolutely bipolar right now and it can be 70 one day, then 35 the next.)

I'm about a week late but welcome to the Midwest in general, Gene.

[KingofHarts]

winterhell, on 25 April 2014 - 01:52 AM, said:

Again, why do you need/want Windows 8 over 7?

Agreed. My mom and best friend both have Windows 8... I hate almost EVERYTHING about it... every little aspect with using the OS requires relearning how to find/use just about everything.

Vista to 7 was a very easy, SUPER positive change... with just about ZERO learning curve.

7 to 8... over the course of my time trying it out... I don't even know how to view internet connection properties on W8... WTF? This should not be difficult!?!?!?

To hell with 8. I hope that 9 is a step back in 7's direction.

[HCKTROX]

Didn't these complaints already happened since the huge change Windows 3.1 had against Windows 95? Many people complained about the new design (although the complaints weren't overcrowded because internet wasn't that big and accessable as today).
I guess it's just a matter of time to get used to a new style, just like we done before.

[Flygon]

Less people used computers back then. 95 happened, then the dotcom boom, and then the mass computerization of almost every industry possible (almost all hardware using derivatives of the 9x UI for the user interface. Probably thanks to, y'know, almost every office computer in existence using Windows).

The shift from the 9x styled GUI to Metro is simply on a much larger scale than 3.1 to 9x.

This post has been edited by Flygon: 03 May 2014 - 02:26 AM

[Overlord]

Also, 95 was an improvement. Metro isn't, especially if you don't have a touch device (as the majority of Windows 8 users don't).

[Super Napalm]

Well until I get a GPU to replace my current HD7970 that supports Direct X 12+ I'm probably aint making this jump. Still nice to see it'll finally be more user friendly to non touchscreen users (aka everyone ever)

[winterhell]

Super Napalm, on 04 May 2014 - 07:50 AM, said:

Well until I get a GPU to replace my current HD7970 that supports Direct X 12+ I'm probably aint making this jump. Still nice to see it'll finally be more user friendly to non touchscreen users (aka everyone ever)

You realize OpenGL is far ahead of the curve with the specs than Direct3D(yeah, why do they say DX 10,11 or 12 when the only change is in D3D?), and it runs everywhere, including Windows XP 32bit, Linux, OS X and soon some Android devices would run the pure 4.4 instead of the ES version. The things D3D12 promises have been already supported by OGL on AMD/NVIDIA cards for years. Most of the features I read about were reducing CPU overhead, and rarely addresses the actual GPU performance.

[Super Napalm]

To be honest I'd love to switch to Linux, gotten used to working with it and the only thing keeping me from doing more than just a dual boot is the support for games (which despite progress is still pretty awful).

As far as Windows is concerned, I probably would rephrase my comment and say I'll upgrade when I replace my GPU with something that requires a newer OS to run at max potential. Considering I bought my Matrix Platinum HD7970 only last October/November and I'm only using one 1080p monitor that will probably be quite a while.

[Morph]

Super Napalm, on 04 May 2014 - 07:50 AM, said:

Well until I get a GPU to replace my current HD7970 that supports Direct X 12+

That video card supports DirectX 11, right? I'm pretty sure that Microsoft noted that DirectX 12 runs on DirectX 11 capable GPUs. In particular, I believe it was GCN AMD cards that are supported, which I'm pretty sure is what you've got seeing as it's a 7000 series.

[NickonAquaMagna]

It sounds like everyone's going to be forced to upgrade to Windows 8.1 within a month's time. I'm a little worried, 'cause... well, it's given a lot of people a lot of shit, from the sound of it. Some have failed the installation several times, others have spent all day rebooting their computer over and over again, and some have even lost all of their desktop programs, documents, and everything except the absolute most basic, bare bones programs needed for the computer to run and had to reinstall everything.

Anyone here had these problems? I'm a little worried about losing all my shit.



...Anyone?

This post has been edited by NickonAquaMagna: 16 May 2014 - 08:08 PM

[Master Emerald]

Didn't have a single problem. I love it.