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Gamecube component cable Is it worth me getting one?

#1 User is offline MarzSyndrome 

Posted 28 August 2013 - 08:13 AM

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Okay, here's the basic gist of things:

1) I own a silver PAL Gamecube, first obtained for my birthday back in 2003.
2) It is therefore old enough to sport the digital output port on the back.
3) It is not modded in any way, so any burnt discs or import titles would have to be loaded through GCOS or similar.
4) The official component cable is said to provide the best video quality available, but was marketed very poorly by Nintendo for some reason.
5) So poorly in fact, that it was only available through mail-order and in very limited quantities.
6) And then Nintendo rendered it useless for future GC units by removing the digital output port from said future GC units.
7) To top it all off, no PAL titles are said to support 480p output at all.
8) Not that it stops people from hawking the component cables on eBay for overly inflated prices that rarely ever seem to total below £100 including shipping.
9) Mind you, I also own a red Wii console which can also output component, and for which cables are a lot more common and thus cheaper.
10) Some people reckon that GC outputs component a lot better for GC games than Wii can, though.


Okay, so to really take advantage of the component cable, I would have to obtain NTSC versions of my games, preferably in ISO/GCM form so that I can scrub them and run them off an SD card using Swiss. Given the extra hassle involved in this process (load SD Media Launcher, wait for it to let you use the menu, load Swiss, faff around with Swiss settings, choose game, wait for it to load, cross fingers that it'll work without problems etc), I'm beginning to wonder to myself whether I should still try to shell out the cash for a component cable on eBay for the sake of actual digital quality (since nothing else seems to take advantage of the digital port). Can anyone with experience in all things Nintendo and component shell out some handy advice? Thanking you.

#2 User is offline Captain L 

Posted 28 August 2013 - 09:03 AM

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I was having this problem before, and I can say that I don't really have any problems with playing the Gamecube on an HDTV through composite. Most of the time, it's Mega Man X Collection, so it looks pretty bad, but SA2:B seems like it looks the same as it did on my old TV. And the differences on something like Wind Waker were pretty minimal.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 01:04 PM

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Adding to the problem is that not every NTSC game supports the mode eitiher. I'd say its not worth the hassle, especially considering the price.

How good is your PC? I've had some good results running games like Super Mario Sunshine in Dolphin with an Xbox controller.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 01:58 PM

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Also, they're obscenely expensive in the US, too. Like, $200-250.

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With regards to GCN vs Wii video quality, I haven't noticed a difference between the two on component video. (I have the GCN component cable and a Monoprice Wii component cable.) On a VGA CRT, both look fuzzy due to chroma subsampling, which is a hardware limitation. :v:

However, both the GCN (and Wii) have built-in deflicker. The deflicker mode is set when the game sets the video mode. Some games allow you to control deflicker manually (e.g. Super Smash Bros. Melee and Brawl, Sonic Heroes), but many don't. USB Loader GX r1216/1217 implemented manual video mode forcing, but I'm not sure if the forced video modes have deflicker turned on or off (I'll have to check this), and this only affects Wii games. For GCN games, DIOS MIOS has an option to force 480p, but again, I don't know if this includes the deflicker option.

I might do some testing with DIOS MIOS and ULGX this weekend to see if I can force deflicker on or off in some games.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 05:26 PM

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Number 7 is bullshit, you can play Metroid Prime in 480p if you have a component cable and a Wii with GC support. I'm assuming it's the same if you have a GC and the GC Component cable.

Edit: The Prime version I'm using is from Australia/New Zealand.
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As far as I know, Metroid Prime PAL is the same in Europe and Australia, and last time I tested it, it prompted for 50 Hz or 60 Hz mode, but not progressive scan.

If you're using DIOS MIOS (Lite), you may have the progressive scan patch enabled, which forces 480p for games that don't support it.

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