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New Genesis (Sega Genesis Classic Console) It takes the old carts too!

#16 User is offline Rika Chou 

Posted 18 June 2013 - 03:38 AM

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All the games lists and videos I've seen show S1,2,&K, and spinball, but not 3.

S3 is the only half of the game that has the alternate soundtrack, right? Maybe someone is just remembering wrong or the horrible sound emulation is causing confusion.
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View PostICEknight, on 17 June 2013 - 11:41 PM, said:

Wait.

View PostKeebeeNacho, on 17 June 2013 - 05:14 PM, said:

Also, S3 and S&K seem to have different soundtracks, the ones the PC ports had, I think.
Wait wait wait, what?


Gah, scratch that.

I just plugged it in and did a comparison. It turns out that I was wrong. It's been a been a while since I heard the S&K Collection soundtrack. =\

Anywho, the music is definetly off somehow. Some tracks sound better than others, but there are others that I didn't even recognize at first. Some notes are really off key, and some instruments are much louder than in the original tracks, or just straight up missing from the song.

But I suppose that's typically what you'd expect from a bad emulation. So, nevermind. No S&KC music. I'm an idiot.


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View PostRika Chou, on 18 June 2013 - 03:38 AM, said:

All the games lists and videos I've seen show S1,2,&K, and spinball, but not 3.

S3 is the only half of the game that has the alternate soundtrack, right? Maybe someone is just remembering wrong or the horrible sound emulation is causing confusion.


S&K has an alternate soundtrack too.

But you're right about the rest.
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Yes, these consoles go on emulation as I'm aware. in the same way that I can use PS1 discs in my computer via emulator, the same applies to these consoles. They aren't built like the original Mega Drives, hence their tiny size, and their shitty emulation of built in games with absolutely fucking terrible sound. I'm not just talking "Ooooh it's a bit tinny here and there", I'm talking "Holy fuck Satan's I AM AN UNFUNNY SHITSTAIN my D-Sub ports!".

Seriously, I cannot understand why anyone would ever want to buy this Mega Drive. I suppose the only appeal is for normal folk who see this in a shop window and go "Oooh I used to own a Mega Drive these things are awesome and look it comes with loads of games!!".

The reality is that the picture is blurry and poor, the sound it usually mono and scratchy (only usually has a white and yellow cable), the sound effects are off, the pitch/tone is lower or higher (making the games sound creepy) and they are expensive for what they are.

A good old original Mega Drive costs about a tenner, and I got mine with two perfect controllers and the manual and all cables. Yeah it's a bit bigger but y'know, that's kinda the appeal.

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Haha, I must be an unfunny shitstain.

This post is also a test, because although I cannot edit posts, after I posted another in succession earlier, it merged it in to my previous post. Kinda cool.

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View PostKeebeeNacho, on 18 June 2013 - 09:21 AM, said:

S&K has an alternate soundtrack too.


Is this in the sense of 'Mushroom Hill 1 and Hydrocity 2 (and maybe a few others) have slightly different arrangements in the MIDI version'? Because if not, you're talking crazy.
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View Posttokumaru, on 17 June 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

View PostICEknight, on 17 June 2013 - 04:37 PM, said:

Aren't these emulation-based as well, though?

I guess not, since they use original carts. Unless they dump the carts every time before running the games, which would mean that carts with co-processors (Virtua Racing) or bankswitching (Super Street Fighter II) wouldn't work. It's not impossible, but I find it unlikely.

Nope.

As other have said but I'll iron out for 100% confirmation - these are still emulators of the original system, from a single chip, the exact same one as the built-in systems. The sole difference is the location they're reading data from - instead of the flash chip that stores the in-built ROMs, it's the real cartridge via the datalines to the chip. In terms of what it's doing once the game starts running, it's exactly the same as if it was running on any other Atgame system. Shitty sound and everything.

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View PostmuteKi, on 18 June 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

View PostKeebeeNacho, on 18 June 2013 - 09:21 AM, said:

S&K has an alternate soundtrack too.


Is this in the sense of 'Mushroom Hill 1 and Hydrocity 2 (and maybe a few others) have slightly different arrangements in the MIDI version'? Because if not, you're talking crazy.


That's what I meant to begin with. I played Mushroom Hill Zone and it everything sounded so off that I figured it was the alternate version of the song.


Gosh I feel stupid.

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Picked up one of these last week, it's not really worth the $40. I found it at my local Dollar General for the same price (but with a coffee stain all over it). The sound is sufficiently awful. The wireless controllers both have menu buttons above the start that restart it, and also thankfully have a player 1 and 2 switch. Although the box-art was little different.
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Yeah, that's been known for a little while and is on several box variants of AtGame systems. Still funny, mind. =P

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Funny or not, they should be paying royalties to Blaze.

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Or Blaze should be paying them! ;)

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Are there any recordings of the games running on the AtGames console? I want to hear the differences

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No Sonic specifically, but here's a video with other games to show how bad the sound is.


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View PostVendettagainst, on 22 June 2013 - 05:18 PM, said:

Are there any recordings of the games running on the AtGames console? I want to hear the differences



There you go, sports fan :v: (27 seconds in).
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View PostSpeedStarTMQ, on 22 June 2013 - 05:37 PM, said:

There you go, sports fan :v:/> (27 seconds in).

Holy shit, that sounds horrifying. Like, literally horrifying.

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