[Trunks]

Sad news.



Monster Island was ADV, ADV became Sentai, but there's almost no chance that Sentai would have anything from those days considering they had to dissolve before becoming a new company.

I think the only chance to get the recordings in their truest forms would be one of two methods:

• Getting a japanese-speaker to get in contact with the original composer
  
• Trying to recompile the music by taking the english and japanese audio tracks and trying to transpose them and remove the dialogue.

I'd love to see it happen, but I'm not optimistic.

edit:
IMDB lists the musical staff as:
Junji Fujita - Music Production
Riyu Konaka - Vocalist/Lyracist (Sang Look-A-Like)
Mitsuhiro Tada - Arranger

This post has been edited by Trunks: 17 June 2013 - 08:52 PM

[Friend of Sonic]

It's truly a shame. I absolutely LOVE the soundtrack. That's why preservation is so important, so great things like this aren't compromised.

[Ch1pper]

Wait - Charles Campbell? He Old Man Owl's VA right? :V

Ch1pper, on 25 June 2011 - 05:47 PM, said:

Hmm, I should track down Mitsuhiro Tada's blog again...
Edit: Found it.
Edit 2: And his apparent Twitter account.

So... who's up for some gentle stalking?

After this occured, OKei (I believe it was him) popped up on Twitter to ask Tada about his music. He responded with (I'm paraphrasing) Engrish-y "Thank you", "It was fun", and when asked about releasing it now, something along the lines of "You'd have to ask Sega about that!"

Of course at the time no one had thought of asking him if he remembers what kind of synthesizer brand he used... The M1 Piano means it was likely a Korg of some sort... but clarification as to what particular model would be great.

This post has been edited by Ch1pper: 18 June 2013 - 02:36 PM

[Paradigm]

Ch1pper, on 18 June 2013 - 12:02 PM, said:

Wait - Charles Campbell? He Old Man Owl's VA right? :V

Ch1pper, on 25 June 2011 - 05:47 PM, said:

Hmm, I should track down Mitsuhiro Tada's blog again...
Edit: Found it.
Edit 2: And his apparent Twitter account.

So... who's up for some gentle stalking?

After this occured, OKei (I believe it was him) popped up on Twitter to ask Tada about his music. He responded with (I'm paraphrasing) Engrish-y "Thank you", "It was fun", and when asked about releasing it now, something along the lines of "You'd have to ask Sega about that!"

Of course at the time no one had thought of asking him if he remembers what kind of synthesizer brand he used... The M1 Piano means it was likely a Korg of some sort... but clarification as to what particular model would be great.

Perhaps a tweet requesting the specific model of synthesizer would be in order? Or an e-mail?

This could get us one step closer to a faithful recreation.

[RyogaMasaki]

Hah, this is great guys, dunno how much real headway we'll get but I'm happy to see there's lots of interest in this music.

Here are the ancient OVA MIDIs I have: http://sudden-desu.n...sonic_ova_midi/
No idea where I picked them up, on some site or forum over the years. I unfortunately don't have a good midi setup right now, I just grabbed the basic foobar midi plugin. They sound alright, but I imagine they would be awesome with the right VST or soundfont.

I can't really contribute much else as I lack music skills. I do own the original Japanese VHS tapes of Sonic OVA though, so if for some reason we need original, non-ADV audio rips, I can help...

edit:

Trunks, on 17 June 2013 - 08:48 PM, said:

Getting a japanese-speaker to get in contact with the original composer

Or this. I could help with this.

This post has been edited by RyogaMasaki: 18 June 2013 - 04:56 PM

[Zingela]

Paradigm, on 15 June 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

Not to sound disrespectful, but MIDI tracks don't quite add up to something as clean sounding (if you will) as a high quality recreated soundtrack or a direct (but flawed) rip from the film.

A high-quality recreation will probably use MIDI as a base. To try to explain it shortly, MIDI just sends data of what notes and how to play them, not how it actually sounds. That end result will be entirely up to your sound hardware/DAW/equipment/etc.
If you can find decent enough samples that sound close to the originals (or heck, finding even the original instrument samples wouldn't be too far-fetched) , I don't see why not. The OST was clearly synthesized in the first place (and, likely, used MIDI).

Sorry if that's too confusing, I am a big nerd when it comes to that topic.

Edit: okay ignore me, browser was not properly displaying the page and did not see the further discussion. Good luck on your efforts on contacting the composer, I would love to see what comes of this if anything.

This post has been edited by Zingela: 20 June 2013 - 05:35 AM

[EthanDavis]

Sorry to bump an old topic, but I thought you'd be interested to know that somebody has been releasing some of the tracks in high quality to their YouTube channel:

-Theme of South Island / Metal Sonic Fight:

-"Establishing Shot!" Theme of Planet Freedom:

-Don't forget that "Look Alike" was officially released on the "True Colors" CD recently.

This post has been edited by EthanDavis: 01 June 2014 - 07:53 PM

[Hendricks 266]

EthanDavis, on 01 June 2014 - 07:52 PM, said:

Sorry to bump an old topic, but I thought you'd be interested to know that somebody has been releasing some of the tracks in high quality to their YouTube channel:

-Theme of South Island / Metal Sonic Fight:

That's not high quality, it's just more fine-grained splicing. There are noticeable volume fluctuations and this track does not actually match the music in the original parts they replaced to remove sound effects.

This post has been edited by Hendricks 266: 01 June 2014 - 08:41 PM

[Metalsonicmk72]

I'll just leave this here for you guys:


Download: http://www.mediafire...bp6idxorykentee

Back in 2008, someone made a really badass remix of the South Island theme that happens to be the cleanest one you'll find. He left a download link to the audio and someone, besides me, saved it and actually reuploaded the song with a download link when the original guy closed his account.

[GeneHF]

...screw it, I'll take that South Island splice. Could be cleaned up a tiny bit more, but that's likely the closest we'll get to it unless someone is talented enough to compose it on their own with the exact synths.

Protip: VERY few have even come within acceptable range over the years. Most screw up a little part in Land of Darkness.

[Yusuke]

Hendricks 266, on 01 June 2014 - 08:41 PM, said:

That's not high quality, it's just more fine-grained splicing. There are noticeable volume fluctuations and this track does not actually match the music in the original parts they replaced to remove sound effects.

ur welcom brah

Quote

...screw it, I'll take that South Island splice. Could be cleaned up a tiny bit more, but that's likely the closest we'll get to it unless someone is talented enough to compose it on their own with the exact synths.

Protip: VERY few have even come within acceptable range over the years. Most screw up a little part in Land of Darkness.

How could it be cleaned up further? Any suggestions? I might be able to pull some strings, so to speak.

[Travelsonic]

Hendricks 266, on 01 June 2014 - 08:41 PM, said:

EthanDavis, on 01 June 2014 - 07:52 PM, said:

Sorry to bump an old topic, but I thought you'd be interested to know that somebody has been releasing some of the tracks in high quality to their YouTube channel:

-Theme of South Island / Metal Sonic Fight:

That's not high quality, it's just more fine-grained splicing. There are noticeable volume fluctuations and this track does not actually match the music in the original parts they replaced to remove sound effects.

Well, in terms of having a complete rip, this so far, IMO of course, is the closest we have to a perfect rip - even with the minor issues, and even with parts of the song still missing. Yeah, listen to the song during the Sonic / Hyper Metal Sonic battle, and you will hear what I mean - even with the amount from the opening to the OVA + the amount from one of the commercials for the OVA, there is a lot that we don't/can't rip.

This post has been edited by Travelsonic: 25 June 2014 - 10:19 AM

[GeneHF]

Yusuke, on 11 June 2014 - 03:07 AM, said:

Hendricks 266, on 01 June 2014 - 08:41 PM, said:

That's not high quality, it's just more fine-grained splicing. There are noticeable volume fluctuations and this track does not actually match the music in the original parts they replaced to remove sound effects.

ur welcom brah

Quote

...screw it, I'll take that South Island splice. Could be cleaned up a tiny bit more, but that's likely the closest we'll get to it unless someone is talented enough to compose it on their own with the exact synths.

Protip: VERY few have even come within acceptable range over the years. Most screw up a little part in Land of Darkness.

How could it be cleaned up further? Any suggestions? I might be able to pull some strings, so to speak.

There's a slight pop when it's transitioning from the second drum roll in the middle of the song. That's all that needs to be smoothed over.

[JetBoot DropKick]

I didn't want to start a new thread to ask this but it's kinda relevant. Since we're on the subject of lost music, does anyone know if there's a full rip of this song from Segasonic Arcade floating around? https://www.youtube....h?v=TdqyVjwccic

It's been a while since I last tried to find it, but if I recall correctly the final stage version of this song isn't listed in the games internal sound test function for whatever reason. This one is however: https://www.youtube....h?v=6D-z5Tv9Zpo

Forgive me if it has shown up somewhere and I've just been looking in the wrong places.

[ValleyBell]

I don't know if there is any MP3 of it, but I made a VGM rip of the full game a while ago.
The song has ID 0, which is skipped by the sound test, so it is inaccessible by accident.

Something that would really interest me though is: What is the source of the song titles used on the wiki SegaSonic the Hedgehog OSV?