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Sega Pluto prototype revealed Saturn with built-in NetLink

#16 User is offline Meat Miracle 

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Might have been a year or two, not just a few months.

And it wouldn't have been ground breaking. The machine might have had a modem connection, but its the online service that would be the deciding factor. How did existing Netlink games connect, wasn't it direct dialing?

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So this fellow over on Destructiod... Apparently has the other Pluto. He didn't even know what it was, until the Assembler thread came along.

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Apparently, the 001 guy is planning to sell it on eBay so, if somebody has serious plans to preserve and document it for posterity, it might be that time again to unite forces with other forums before people start outbidding each other for the same cause.

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Shouldn't we try to contact him to negotiate for like, preservation? Maybe we can cut him a good deal? I wouldn't mind starting a fund to get it off his hands or something.

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View PostMeat Miracle, on 18 April 2013 - 11:15 AM, said:

Neptune is well known... but while we are at it, what is the first source to call it as the Neptune?


First source I remember reading about it at the time was this.

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View PostBartman3010, on 17 April 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

Pretty crazy considering how few NetLink games there were. One could have hoped the cartridge slot on that model wasn't absolute garbage.

It's pretty groundbreaking when you think about it - it would have been the first (??) video game console to have internet support straight out of the box, presumably pre-dating the Dreamcast by a few months.

Nintendo and Sony didn't really get their act together on this front until 2006 - talk about ahead of its time


The PS2 did support Internet, it was just by cable. Same as the Xbox and GC IIRC.

GC didn't support an internet connection out of the box. It required one of these

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View PostMeat Miracle, on 18 April 2013 - 11:15 AM, said:

As for the Mark V -> Venus connection, I don't think that was the case. They still used the old Mark 1-2-3-4 lineup at the time... But if Venus was just a generic term for the MD hardware, then Sega CD would be Earth, so we have the inner planets of the solar system all lined up in order.

I quite like this theory (even though it's more than likely wrong).

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View PostICEknight, on 18 April 2013 - 05:47 PM, said:

Apparently, the 001 guy is planning to sell it on eBay so, if somebody has serious plans to preserve and document it for posterity, it might be that time again to unite forces with other forums before people start outbidding each other for the same cause.

Won't work, this thing can easily go as high as several thousand dollars.

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Wow, $1 at a second hand shop? That's every collector's dream come true right there. Odd how he never thought to ask about it online in the six years he has owned it, but there are a lot of unusual Saturn models out there like the Hi-Saturn so I guess he just assumed it was one of those.

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View PostDan Lioneye, on 19 April 2013 - 01:55 AM, said:

GC didn't support an internet connection out of the box. It required one of these


And that only worked with PSO I, II, III, and a game called Cubivore. Of course, you could also LAN a few games, and play online unofficially through warp pipe.

The PS2 similarly required an external modem. How I miss the original Metal Gear Online...

I really do hope someone close to the community ends up with Pluto 001, so we can see how the thing's put together. I wonder how the hell it even ended up at a flea market?

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Didn't some PS2s come witha modem out of the box though? IIRC one I have here did...

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View PostAndlabs, on 19 April 2013 - 12:35 PM, said:

Didn't some PS2s come witha modem out of the box though? IIRC one I have here did...

So did a few Saturns, if by "out of the box" you mean the modem was packed next to the console.

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This is an amazing discovery. One has to wonder how things might've turned out had this been released. Probably would've been quite expensive for the time, I imagine.

View PostGagaMan, on 19 April 2013 - 03:30 AM, said:

Wow, $1 at a second hand shop? That's every collector's dream come true right there. Odd how he never thought to ask about it online in the six years he has owned it, but there are a lot of unusual Saturn models out there like the Hi-Saturn so I guess he just assumed it was one of those.


No kidding. It's insane how these ultra-rare gems are purchased for so little and are revealed to be worth a lot more.

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View Postdoc eggfan, on 19 April 2013 - 02:11 AM, said:

View PostMeat Miracle, on 18 April 2013 - 11:15 AM, said:

As for the Mark V -> Venus connection, I don't think that was the case. They still used the old Mark 1-2-3-4 lineup at the time... But if Venus was just a generic term for the MD hardware, then Sega CD would be Earth, so we have the inner planets of the solar system all lined up in order.

I quite like this theory (even though it's more than likely wrong).

I believe the code name for the MD/Gen was Terra, which might explain how they got the name for the MD PC (TerraDrive). I forgot where I heard that though so I could be completely wrong.

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Pretty sure I heard that Terra name from somewhere, though I may be projecting it based on the MD being Earth in the planet project system.
The Teradrive is more likely to come from the SI prefix (mega -> giga -> tera).

Now, if you want a riddle, tell me why the Megadrive product code was HAA-2510. Every other system used a product code that reflected the system name: HSS and HST for Sega Saturn, HMJ for Mega Jet, HMA for 32x (short for Mars), HGG for Game Gear, HWM for Wondermega, HPC for Pico... But the Megadrive (and Mega CD) used HAA. What did the AA stand for? Simply AA as in first characters for a new product code number scheme, or was it the codename of the machine?


In other news, Pluto 1 is up for an auction:
http://www.gamegavel...item=0000752122

7600$ already.

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Of course, the Sega Aardvark!, now it all makes sense!

Hard to imagine a AA codename, it is food for thought though.

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