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#31 User is offline Jason 

Posted 27 June 2013 - 05:44 PM

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Uh...

Ignore the short bursts of buzzing. That's just the phone. This seems to happen occasionally without much warning. No specific task seems to trigger it. This sound is different than normal, but in every case the computer freezes, and if noise was playing, some noise like a very short repeating clip of it plays until I shut the computer off. Any thoughts?

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View PostJason, on 27 June 2013 - 05:44 PM, said:

Uh...

Ignore the short bursts of buzzing. That's just the phone. This seems to happen occasionally without much warning. No specific task seems to trigger it. This sound is different than normal, but in every case the computer freezes, and if noise was playing, some noise like a very short repeating clip of it plays until I shut the computer off. Any thoughts?


Run memtestx86. Sounds like a memory error to me, offhand :P

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I'm looking to buy parts for a custom PC. I'm competent in my ability to get compatible parts, but just in case, I wanna ask you guys before ordering.



I'm not trying to cheap out on anything. If you guys think I should get different parts, please, let me know. I'm at about $1,200 right now and I can go higher. $1,400-1,500 is my max--I really want this to be future proof for a couple of years. Play Generations flawlessly now... replace dying parts 4-5 years later.

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I'd consider looking at the 700 series Nvidia cards. They are obviously a bit more expensive - the 760 is about £75 more than the 660 but if futureproof is what you want, this is what you should get.
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View PostJaredAFX, on 06 July 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:

I'm looking to buy parts for a custom PC. I'm competent in my ability to get compatible parts, but just in case, I wanna ask you guys before ordering.



I'm not trying to cheap out on anything. If you guys think I should get different parts, please, let me know. I'm at about $1,200 right now and I can go higher. $1,400-1,500 is my max--I really want this to be future proof for a couple of years. Play Generations flawlessly now... replace dying parts 4-5 years later.



Cheap out? You have quite a bit of money sunk in the motherboard. You can get something that will suit your needs just as well for $120. From there, you could use the savings to buy 16GB of RAM for good future-proofing with the onset of the Playstation 4.

I also wouldn't bother buying an i7 CPU because hyperthreading costs you $100 more and does not offer a noticeable improvement in games. Instead, I'd just buy the Core i5 4670k. For one thing, you could overclock it. You can get it to at least 4.2GHz with an aftermarket heatsink, like this one I use that works perfectly. Even in the most favorable circumstances, Hyperthreading cannot outperform a 25% overclock. Making this decision will give you a big performance increase if you choose to overclock, and only a 5-10% drop if you choose not to. and save you $55. The motherboard will even do the overclocking for you automatically if you don't want to raise the voltage offset by 0.05V.

That wireless adapter you found is only compatible with mini pci-e slots found on laptops, so you would have to shell out about $10 for an adapter just to make it work on your desktop PC. You also don't have to buy at wireless adapter at the obscene price of $54. I have this $8 wireless-N adapter that uses USB 2.0 that has worked perfectly for me. Remember- your wi-fi adapter only needs to be as fast as your internet service, and this thing still moves data at 150mbps. As it turns out, I don't need mine anymore. Since it was so cheap, I'll just give it to you for free. I can mail it in a small envelope for ~50 cents. This right here is $65 in savings, $57 even if you had to buy the adapter for yourself. You also don't even have to open your PC to install and remove this thing.

With those savings, I would recommend buying an NVidia GTX 760 instead of the 650Ti. The performance gain is over double, I don't know what else to say about that.

I think you would be better off saving your money and getting a 550W PSU instead. This is still a lot more than what you need for an 85W CPU and a GTX 760. This PSU is still 80PLUS Gold certified, so it's highly efficient.

As for your storage solution, I would just shell out $10 more and get this 128GB SSD instead of that 64GB unit or else skip the SSD altogether. You have to put most of your games on the hard drive anyway, so the performance gain isn't that great. I have an SSD, and it's really not that much better for desktops. If you take my advice, you're getting 16GB of RAM anyway which gives you enough RAM to run an 8GB drive on ramdisk (run a virtual hard drive using RAM) which reads at over 6000 MB/s instead of 400 MB/s. 8GB of These things provide the most utility inside laptops where shock resistance, power consumption, and noise are much more significant deciding factors. When I do a complete reboot, I'm going to put my 60GB SSD in my laptop anyway. If you don't get the SSD, you save $82.

Summary of suggestions...
-Buy a cheaper motherboard that still has everything you need and more, save $60.
-Buy the unlocked i5 instead of the locked i7, buy a $25 heatsink, save $55 and still get a 20% performance increase.
-Don't buy the incompatible wi-fi adpater, take mine for free, save another $55 and have an adapter that actually works.
-Don't buy a 750W PSU, buy a 550W PSU, save $40, and still have way more power than you need even with a GTX 760 in your system.
-Don't buy the SSD, use RAMdisk instead, save $82 and get over 15 times the read/write speed.
-Use the $290 you just saved to buy 16GB of RAM instead of 8, buy a GTX 760 instead of a 650Ti, and watch your game performance shoot through the roof.
-Maybe buy another set of the same RAM sticks I just recommended since you have a $1400 budget, and you've still spent less after doing all these things.

If you do everything I suggested, you spend $25 more, but you end up with a CPU that's typically 20% faster, a video card twice as fast, and four times as much RAM. I can't make any suggestions about getting Windows 7 cheaply because Sonic Retro has rules set in place for understandable reasons, but if to use more than 16GB as system RAM (not ramdisk), you need to get Windows 7 Pro instead.

EDIT: http://www.raymond.c...ase-in-ramdisk/
I'm sure this will come in handy.
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Thank you so much! Don't get me wrong: I completely understand what you're saying, but I'm just new to putting components together. I wouldn't really have thought to do any of this. This is why I love this community.

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Yeah, no problem! I love this community too, but I need to stop procrasturbating long enough to actually get some work done on my fangame.

Man, I envy you with that budget. I only had $850 to make my PC, so I was cheap on the graphics card and put $225 into the CPU.

I was kind of wishy-washy about the extra RAM, but I would say resolutely to buy all 32GB if you have the money. A 16GB RAM drive will make everything run stupid fast if you set it to load the OS from the hard disk on startup.

EDIT: One last thing, please make sure to watch the how-to videos. Personally, I received a lot of help from watching Linus Tech Tips.
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So I keep getting BSODs on my computer. I'm kind of assuming that its because its been hot and its over heating but it worrying me.

Anyone know how I can figure out the cause of the BSODs? From what I can seem to gather, it's pretty random but I think maybe it has to do something with the GPU? Since it happens while I'm watching YouTube videos (then again... I pretty much ALWAYS have a YouTube video going but it has happened when I've started the video several times and once when I exited the window the video is on).

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It could be from pretty much anything. For me it most often happens either from HDD problems(the drive gets disconnected on its own and you have to restart). Also CPU failure, clocked too high or having a damaged core that you need to disable.

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What may help with diagnosing the blue screen would be to note down any useful information from the blue screen, such as the error code or anything else. I managed to determine my computer was crashing due to a failing Wifi card after I noticed the BSOD always mentioned the file name of it's driver.

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Just happened again. Win32.sys is the cause of the error.

...I'm guessing there's not much I can do about that. :/

I guess it's just overheating. The position its in right now means it can't really get much air flow and I can't really change it. Oh well, things should start cooling down before long...

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View PostUltima, on 27 June 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:

View PostJason, on 27 June 2013 - 05:44 PM, said:

Uh...

Ignore the short bursts of buzzing. That's just the phone. This seems to happen occasionally without much warning. No specific task seems to trigger it. This sound is different than normal, but in every case the computer freezes, and if noise was playing, some noise like a very short repeating clip of it plays until I shut the computer off. Any thoughts?
Run memtestx86. Sounds like a memory error to me, offhand :P
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View PostVinchenz, on 12 July 2013 - 05:30 AM, said:

So I keep getting BSODs on my computer. I'm kind of assuming that its because its been hot and its over heating but it worrying me.

Anyone know how I can figure out the cause of the BSODs? From what I can seem to gather, it's pretty random but I think maybe it has to do something with the GPU? Since it happens while I'm watching YouTube videos (then again... I pretty much ALWAYS have a YouTube video going but it has happened when I've started the video several times and once when I exited the window the video is on).

View PostVinchenz, on 16 July 2013 - 07:41 AM, said:

Just happened again. Win32.sys is the cause of the error.

...I'm guessing there's not much I can do about that. :/

I guess it's just overheating. The position its in right now means it can't really get much air flow and I can't really change it. Oh well, things should start cooling down before long...


Now its really starting to act weird. Booted up my computer and switching to different Windows was slow or took multiple clicks. Restarted and it worked fine, until I got hit with a BSOD again. Same thing as before started happening. Restarted again and its working fine now... :ohdear:

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Funny that you guys mention BSOD incidents. Ever since I applied a registry hack to Windows 7 so I could enable AHCI mode for my SSD without having to reinstall my OS, I get the BSOD whenever I boot my system. A memory dump is performed, and then the system is automatically rebooted. I never crash attempting to reboot, and I monitored the CPU and GPU temperatures, but nothing has ever overheated. I can only think of one surefire way to fix it- reinstall Windows 7, but what are the odds I'll ever get around to backing up everything and going through the trouble? No harm is being done, so why bother?

I guess what I'm trying to ask is, could anything bad happen to my computer if I leave things the way they are? My error is also in Win32.sys if that helps.

Also, this is my last trial post, and I wanted to post something in the "terrible Sonic jokes" topic, but I just have to share mine with all my chums here.

"What did Robotnik say before he turned up his treadmill? TIME FOR A CHANGE OF PACE!"

"What does Sonic say when he wants to buy steroids? "Gotta juice!""

"Did you hear about Robotnik's new Tex-Mex joint? He calls it the "Mean Bean Machine!""

"What did Sonic say after he ate there? "GOTTA GO FAST!""

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Well, another YouTube video started and another BSOD. This time with atikmdag.sys being the error.

Seems I was right about it maybe being connected to my Graphics Card as it seems just by searching for atikmdag.sys it's connected with BSODs and its a thing that happens with AMD graphics. Followed some instructions and messed with some System32 files!!! :DDDDDDDD

Hope things work out. Rebooted and everything seems fine thus far.

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