[Black Squirrel]

The PlayStation 3 is meant to be the more powerful console of the two (or so the specifications say) but it took a while for developers to get good results from the hardware. It seems to depend entirely on the people making the game - the PS3 should win in most cases but often it doesn't, so the two consoles end up being pretty much identical.

IIRC Rock Band is one of the examples of a game having a really bad PS3 port. There were a few EA published games from that era with similar troubles.

[Oerg866]

as long as XBOX emulators don't even exist yet, and PS2 emulators still suck the big one, I'm gonna say you'll have to wait a decade or so for that >.> not to mention the PS3 actually is a pretty beefy system hardware-wise.

and Wii being "almost a gamecube" makes it easier to make a wii emulator, but that statement shows complete and utter disrespect towards the amazing achievements by the dolphin programmers.

[Meat Miracle]

Black Squirrel, on 17 November 2012 - 04:57 PM, said:

The PlayStation 3 is meant to be the more powerful console of the two (or so the specifications say) but it took a while for developers to get good results from the hardware. It seems to depend entirely on the people making the game - the PS3 should win in most cases but often it doesn't, so the two consoles end up being pretty much identical.

IIRC Rock Band is one of the examples of a game having a really bad PS3 port. There were a few EA published games from that era with similar troubles.

The PS3 has a *potentially* more powerful CPU under *some* circumstances. The x360 is faster generally however, and it has a more advanced GPU.

Tanks, on 16 November 2012 - 05:52 PM, said:

Man the original Xbox doesn't even have a proper emulator yet. It'll probably be years before anyone even tries taking a crack at a 360 one...

x86 is a bitch to emulate, and there's not enough low-level documentation on the gpu.

[DustArma]

Meat Miracle, on 17 November 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

Black Squirrel, on 17 November 2012 - 04:57 PM, said:

The PlayStation 3 is meant to be the more powerful console of the two (or so the specifications say) but it took a while for developers to get good results from the hardware. It seems to depend entirely on the people making the game - the PS3 should win in most cases but often it doesn't, so the two consoles end up being pretty much identical.

IIRC Rock Band is one of the examples of a game having a really bad PS3 port. There were a few EA published games from that era with similar troubles.

The PS3 has a *potentially* more powerful CPU under *some* circumstances. The x360 is faster generally however, and it has a more advanced GPU.

Tanks, on 16 November 2012 - 05:52 PM, said:

Man the original Xbox doesn't even have a proper emulator yet. It'll probably be years before anyone even tries taking a crack at a 360 one...

x86 is a bitch to emulate, and there's not enough low-level documentation on the gpu.

Noob question, but couldn't you run the code natively on current x86 CPUs

[Oerg866]

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x86 is a bitch to emulate

No. At least not the kind of x86-CPUs that were available in 2001.

Even if it were, AMD-V/Intel-VT anyone?

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and there's not enough low-level documentation on the gpu.

Well, sort of. It's the chipset and the architecture around it. The GPU is just some GeForce 3 based thing.

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Noob question, but couldn't you run the code natively on current x86 CPUs

If I'm not mistaken that's kind of what current XBOX emulators actually do, at least partly.

This post has been edited by Oerg866: 19 November 2012 - 02:31 AM

[Aerosol]

I thought that current xbox emulators sorta recompiled xbox games on the fly. Or something like that.

[The Game Collector]

Tanks, on 17 November 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

LocalH, on 17 November 2012 - 02:39 AM, said:

I think it's funny that the original Xbox is the only last-gen console that doesn't have a proper emulator, and that the Wii is the only current-gen console that does :P

I wish there was a legit 3DS emulator. I'd honestly go buy NSMB2 just to be moral, but I don't care about the 3D gimmick and don't want to pay for the damn hardware :P

Have you played NSMBWii? Its the same game only without the coin gimmick. (I'm not shitting you they basically just copied a bunch of resources over and slapped a new label on it.)

That's just being snarky. The level design is completely different between each of the games. The boss battles and powerups are not the exact same moves either.

[null1024]

AerosolSP, on 19 November 2012 - 01:40 PM, said:

I thought that current xbox emulators sorta recompiled xbox games on the fly. Or something like that.

Cxbx just redirects Xbox API calls and attempts to run X86 code directly. Only Halo 1 is near playable though, but a handful of other games boot.

[Aerosol]

Too bad he dropped the emulator though. And Dxbx went the same way.

This post has been edited by AerosolSP: 23 November 2012 - 02:53 PM

[SoullessSentinel]

AerosolSP, on 23 November 2012 - 02:05 PM, said:

Too bad he dropped the emulator though. And Dxbvx went the same way.

There is still development in progress, though. I know BlueShogun picked up the source code, and details any progress he makes on his blog, here.
Due to the way it works, it will probably never support 64bit systems, it doesn't even run under WOW64, only on 32bit installations of Windows XP through to 7. (I never tested Windows 8)

This post has been edited by SoullessSentinel: 23 November 2012 - 02:10 PM

[The Game Collector]

At least the fact that it may take years for an emulator for even Xbox to work isn't a big deal in terms of preservation yet. Regular Xbox systems are one of the most common things to find in thrift stores (maybe even more common than Sega Genesis) and once modded you can play any backup disc you get in rom format. In another 10 years it might get harder to find working Xboxes that haven't had their DVD and hard drives replaced with new parts. While Playstation 2 emulation is a cool idea, a modchipped real Playstation 2 will give better performance if one just wants to play roms. Gamecube on the other hand is a bit more difficult to deal with so it makes me glad that is the emulator that has been the most successful of the three.

Speaking of last gen, how well does the Dreamcast emulator perform? Is that one even working perfectly yet?

[Aerosol]

Dreamcast emulators work fairly well, actually.

[DustArma]

AerosolSP, on 23 November 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

Dreamcast emulators work fairly well, actually.

But the scene itself is dead, I think.

[Aerosol]

Pretty much. Development on NullDC and Demul is slow going. But at least they're going, unlike a certain N64 emulator.

[Mr Lange]

AerosolSP, on 23 November 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

Pretty much. Development on NullDC and Demul is slow going. But at least they're going, unlike a certain N64 emulator.

Yeah wtf. Both Project64 and Wii64 have stopped dead in their tracks months ago, both right before their "get ready to shit bricks because of how awesome this will be" new releases.