[TheInvisibleSun]

TheKazeblade, on 15 March 2013 - 03:54 PM, said:

Hukos, on 15 March 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

Why the hell Sonic needs to re-acquire the Light Speed shoes in SA2, when it's mandatory in SA1 to collect.

Like, what the hell happened there? Did Sonic run into massive debt and have to sell them off?

Maybe they're like insoles. He had to get a new pair to fit right for the SOAP shoes

Either this, or they wear off after a certain period of time.

[Neko Kit Su]

The way Sonic's gone since the Dreamcast days. Sure, I lurve Sonic Heroes, and Shadow the Hedgehog was questionable at best, but if I stand them side by side to, say, X-treme's premise, I realize what could have been and have a sad. It could have gone that way, instead...

[Hukos]

TheInvisibleSun, on 16 March 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

TheKazeblade, on 15 March 2013 - 03:54 PM, said:

Hukos, on 15 March 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

Why the hell Sonic needs to re-acquire the Light Speed shoes in SA2, when it's mandatory in SA1 to collect.

Like, what the hell happened there? Did Sonic run into massive debt and have to sell them off?

Maybe they're like insoles. He had to get a new pair to fit right for the SOAP shoes

Either this, or they wear off after a certain period of time.

Do we know the time difference between the end of SA1 and the start of SA2?

[TheInvisibleSun]

Hukos, on 17 March 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

TheInvisibleSun, on 16 March 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

TheKazeblade, on 15 March 2013 - 03:54 PM, said:

Hukos, on 15 March 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

Why the hell Sonic needs to re-acquire the Light Speed shoes in SA2, when it's mandatory in SA1 to collect.

Like, what the hell happened there? Did Sonic run into massive debt and have to sell them off?

Maybe they're like insoles. He had to get a new pair to fit right for the SOAP shoes

Either this, or they wear off after a certain period of time.

Do we know the time difference between the end of SA1 and the start of SA2?

It is probably a short period of time, since the Tails v. Eggman fight was in a newspaper...

[Tanicius]

Probably my biggest one would be when Knuckles appears; exactly what's going on with the Master Emerald? What's protecting it from being stolen from someone while he's busy assisting Sonic with matters on the surface? Did he make some elaborate booby traps, find some assistants a la the Chaotix, or something else entirely?

It's something I've always wanted SEGA to give some semblance of an official statement on: Knuckles' duty is to protect the Island and the Emerald, so what's to keep Eggman from taking it and harnessing his power while they're distracted fighting his main forces down below? He could easily dispatch a small squad to nab the thing and gain access to one of the strongest power sources on the entire planet.

Maybe I just think too much into it, but really, exactly what's keeping the Emerald safe?

[Squidgy]

Neko Kit Su, on 16 March 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

The way Sonic's gone since the Dreamcast days. Sure, I lurve Sonic Heroes, and Shadow the Hedgehog was questionable at best, but if I stand them side by side to, say, X-treme's premise, I realize what could have been and have a sad. It could have gone that way, instead...

I only agree to an extent, because I love the new Modern gameplay, but I really do wish X-treme would have happened just so I could have played it. It actually looked pretty awesome.

[Samurai Echidna]

Tanicius, on 23 March 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:

Probably my biggest one would be when Knuckles appears; exactly what's going on with the Master Emerald? What's protecting it from being stolen from someone while he's busy assisting Sonic with matters on the surface? Did he make some elaborate booby traps, find some assistants a la the Chaotix, or something else entirely?

It's something I've always wanted SEGA to give some semblance of an official statement on: Knuckles' duty is to protect the Island and the Emerald, so what's to keep Eggman from taking it and harnessing his power while they're distracted fighting his main forces down below? He could easily dispatch a small squad to nab the thing and gain access to one of the strongest power sources on the entire planet.

Maybe I just think too much into it, but really, exactly what's keeping the Emerald safe?

It bothers me too, but I always had a few theories I could try to infer based on the material given in the games.

1. Booby traps is an interesting one...
2. If the scale of the danger at large is too big too ignore (as in, the entire planet or all life could be at risk), then Knuckles might leave his duties to pursue the bigger threat at hand. That makes sense for games like 06 and even Shadow's game, but not so much for games like Heroes, where the threat was no bigger than what Eggman did in the classic titles.
3. If the Master Emerald is not in threat of being stolen again, then maybe Knuckles can afford to step away for a while. After trying to many times, I don't think Eggman cares about the Master Emerald anymore; especially considering how much messing with it backfired in Sonic Adventure. Eggman trying to steal it again in Sonic Adventure 2 just seems forced, but he probably did it for insurance against things like Shadow and Bio Lizard/Final Hazard rather than his usual reasons for stealing it. But while being smart enough not try the same thing "twice" might be true for Eggman, it'd still be risky. Anyone, including new enemies, could be after the Master Emerald, thus making it's possible theft impossible to predict. Also, you have to wonder if Knuckles would think that deep into it or not.
4. This last one is a REAL stretch, but follow me on this.... Knuckles can leave the island AND carry the Master Emerald with him. Since the state of Angel Island wasn't brought up much in Sonic Adventure 2, I kind of want to believe that it's not about having the Master Emerald on the island where it belongs, but rather about making sure the Master Emerald can disperse/circulate its energy through the Shrine, the Hidden Palace Zone, and the various "life veins" of Angel Island. So, as long as it's in one piece, all will be fine. And if I am remembering correctly, there was a cutscene in one of the 3D games where Knuckles mass-shifted it seemingly out of nowhere. He reached around for it, it started off small, and then it grew into full size. The Master Emerald can shrink into travel size.

Buuuuuuuut~ This could just be reading too deep into it. After all, Knuckles has finally accepted Sonic and Tails as his closest friends and has learned to stop falling for Eggman's lies. Having adventures with his buddies is the least Sega could do for us. Do we really need a reason? He is one of the popular main characters, after all.

[The Game Collector]

Tanicius, on 23 March 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:

Probably my biggest one would be when Knuckles appears; exactly what's going on with the Master Emerald? What's protecting it from being stolen from someone while he's busy assisting Sonic with matters on the surface? Did he make some elaborate booby traps, find some assistants a la the Chaotix, or something else entirely?

It's something I've always wanted SEGA to give some semblance of an official statement on: Knuckles' duty is to protect the Island and the Emerald, so what's to keep Eggman from taking it and harnessing his power while they're distracted fighting his main forces down below? He could easily dispatch a small squad to nab the thing and gain access to one of the strongest power sources on the entire planet.

Maybe I just think too much into it, but really, exactly what's keeping the Emerald safe?

Isn't that pretty much exactly what happened in Sonic & Knuckles? Knuckles is off setting up booby traps for Sonic and while they are distracted and fighting Robotnik finally finds the entrance to the Hidden Palace and steals the Master Emerald before the final levels. Since this is his first time doing so they have a much easier time catching up to him as he can't get that far away from them having stolen it with them present in the adjoining room.

[Clutch]

Yeah, the Master Emerald mass-shifts in Sonic Adventure 2's Last Story, so it looks like he literally pulls it out of his ass. Whether that's a presentation choice or an actual ability of his I'll leave to fanwankery.

If he can't actually lug the thing around I assume he's not only got booby traps, but also since generally Eggman is the only one who try to mess with it anymore so keeping tabs on him is almost as important as watching the emerald itself, and therefore the best course of action is to follow the path of destruction Sonic leaves behind. Knuckles has given Angel Island a sort of "not to be fucked with" reputation so I imagine the majority of the human populace just leaves it alone while every single supervillain we've seen try to steal/smash it has managed to do so with Knuckles right friggin' there anyway.

He's also got his innate ability to track it down as seen with the radar he's had every single other time it gets shattered into pieces, so I assume even if some low-level crook archeologist tried to sell it on the black market he'd just be able to track the thing down and pummel the responsible party anyway.

[muteKi]

What did Knuckles even want the chaos emeralds for at the start of S3(K) anyway? Can't say I'd ever figured that one out.

[Master Emerald]

I thought he hid them at the special stages somehow.

[dsrb]

Well, the Floating Island appeared to be lacking its own Emeralds if Hidden Palace Zone at the start of MHZ in S3&K is anything to go by, so maybe Knuckles wanted Sonic's Chaos Emeralds from South Island in order to jazz up his pimpin' room. The questions then are how did they get into the Special Stages, why didn't Knuckles have his own set of Chaos Emeralds, or if he did, where did Sonic's set go, and so on until all of our brains are wrapped in horrible knots. :S

[Clutch]

Knuckles didn't seem to want the Chaos Emeralds so much as he just didn't want Sonic to have them. Eggman had convinced him Sonic was a thief. If Knuckles had been watching them approach Angel Island's shoreline the entire time, he also probably saw that Sonic used the (presumably stolen) Chaos Emeralds to turn himself a floating sparkly golden hog of death. Obvious solution was to disarm him and make sure his "weapons" were way the hell away.

[The Growler]

I think this again shows how good Fleetway's STC explains all this; Sonic collected his set in the Special Zone [which had its own back story], and Knuckles had his set - to which there were once only 1 lot of Chaos Emeralds, to which Robotnik merged them together etc. etc.

I don't know where the Master Emerald came into it though.

[JaredAFX]

Tanicius, on 23 March 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:

Probably my biggest one would be when Knuckles appears; exactly what's going on with the Master Emerald? What's protecting it from being stolen from someone while he's busy assisting Sonic with matters on the surface? Did he make some elaborate booby traps, find some assistants a la the Chaotix, or something else entirely?

Haven't you seen Christmas with Sonic? Knuckles put up a sign that said "Lick me I'm delicious!" It stopped Rouge and that... echidna... thing... why wouldn't it stop anyone else?

Seriously, though, this is one of the biggest things they've never explained. He could have had the Chaotix watch over it, but that wouldn't make sense in Generations. There are some things that are better left unexplained, I suppose.