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I made s documentary film about Sonic the Hedgehog

#16 User is offline Jayextee 

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I don't agree with the part where you implied anything after Sonic 2 wasn't utter shit.

Otherwise, nice work. ;)

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Oh God, CHAOTIX. Yeah, this was definitely my favorite part.

Everyone needs to chill. He didn't make this to be an "official review" of the series. There's no reason to take this shit seriously. It was put together to be funny!

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When you first mentioned Sonic R and Sonic the fighters I was waiting for you to tear into thoses, you caught me off guard XD

Overall though, you got about 30% documentary and 70% personal moaning, (Being very generous haha) some interesting facts, but mostly moaning =/

Sonic Genesis... GAWD! (reads your responces) You shoulden't even JOKE about that. Or atleast make some small effort to make it sound like your taking ther piss lol
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It blew my mind when you cut from 06 to the original game all of a sudden. Good god. Thankfully, the quality of the games are getting better now, but still...

Great documentary, man. Had me in stitches.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 01:53 PM

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"I hate this that and everything because of reasons I won't explain" the 1 hour video. Ok.

Got pretty tiresome how lazy the writing was. Just barely works as trolling material but even then it needed more than "this sucks and has crappy characters and it's shit and if you like it you're a faggot" to actually work beyond some of the amusing use of footage. Got boring after a while, lasted about 30 minutes.

Sonic fan trolling is so tired and overdone. There's nothing left to do with it. It's long beyond beating a dead horse at this point, there is barely fossilised remains of the corpse buried under layers and layers of land now.
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View PostGagaMan, on 26 March 2012 - 01:53 PM, said:

"I hate this that and everything because of reasons I won't explain" the 1 hour video. Ok.

Got pretty tiresome how lazy the writing was. Just barely works as trolling material but even then it needed more than "this sucks and has crappy characters and it's shit and if you like it you're a faggot" to actually work beyond some of the amusing use of footage. Got boring after a while, lasted about 30 minutes.

Sonic fan trolling is so tired and overdone. There's nothing left to do with it. It's long beyond beating a dead horse at this point, there is barely fossilised remains of the corpse buried under layers and layers of land now.


I think I generally overall had this opinion, although when there was actual jokemaking (the long "NO" montage, and the stuff said about Yuji Naka and Berine Stolar that was dead-on), I chuckled a bit. I think more focus needed to be put on how the sucky games were usually the result of inner-business drama at SEGA, or how SEGA jumped the shark for years since the Sammy buyout, or, you know, generally feeling like the person talking shit about Sonic games has researched, well-thought-out trolling going on here that's difficult to brush aside because it's true and hard to defend against.

The most disappointing aspect for me was how the Dreamcast scene was set up like it was gonna really rip on the Dreamcast fans with inconvenient-yet-truthful cons about the Dreamcast... but then just said some BS about processor speeds (in a console era where RAM and GPU factored in more) and then went right back to trolling Sonic fans.
As a Dreamcast fan, I was expecting to have the feeling that my soul was ripped apart by the truth, but all I got from that was "Jeez, were the Sonic games the ONLY ones you played on that platform?"
You could have been able to cite all the -real- flaws of the Dreamcast - and all the sucky games the Dreamcast had - in less time than it took for you to build that scene up and then have it end anticlimatically.

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Could you turn your 'Sonic isn't a furry!!!' and 'Anyone who draws fanart (except my girlfriend) is an idiot!!!' articles into educational videos too?

Or do a Wetflame documentary.

There is no need to stop this burgeoning film career here.

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If that's how you really feel about the Sonic series, why are you still here? I'm not just addressing Phugolz either. I know the Sonic series has had more bad games than good ones, but why let that affect your enjoyment of the series? To me, a shitty Sonic game is just a shitty Sonic game. It's not "another crushing blow for the Sonic series" (again, not quoting Phogolz here, just people who think this way) or something equally as hyperbolic. The Sonic Labyrinths, Shadow the Hedgehogs and the Sonic 2006's of the series are no more relevant to me than the Mario Early Years, Mario's FUNdamentals and Hotel Mario's of the Mario series. But if you want to go around marking every bad Sonic game ever made on a clipboard to justify your hatred of a video game character, that's not really any of my business.

As least this mockumentary wasn't completely negative. In fact, Phugolz seems to have roughly the same evaluation of the games as I do. That being the 2D games are generally good (Sonic 1-3&K, CD, Advance 1) with almost everything else being crap. I even kinda like Sonic R, but his praise for that game could just be sarcasm, which is understandable.

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Best thing related to Sonic that I've seen in a while, because it was all true. It also made me seriously realise that as much as I love SEGA, that love isn't deserved. SEGA really is a company of assholes and has been for a long time.

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Just watched it. I agreed with a lot of stuff right up to when you started on about Sonic Adventure and everything since. The rest of it was a subpar load of shit regarding 3D stuff. You're a funny guy though, your voice doesn't sound dull and it kept my attention. You say funny stuff and it makes me smile. To even get me to watch 5 minutes to me is just damn impressive. I watched the whole 1 hour and 5 minutes! I barely watch films for that long.

You also called Sonic Genesis (GBA) a decent effort. Seriously, what the fuck? I know you said you were smoking/drinking, and this was an hour long so it may have been an oversight, but what the actual fuck?

Your view is also extremely bias from an outsiders point of view. Your whole documentary is written as though it was faithfully viewing the Sonic franchise from the very beginning all the way to the end like some closed end tale, yet the perspective is obviously from someone who only seems to like 2D Sonic games, and who has the ability of obvious hindsight. What was bad at the time seemed to be good then, like many things, and you can't simply deem it shit just because it's no longer relevant. You tapped in to issues of quality by deeming games like Sonic Spinball shit, and saying that the cartoons were horrible (SatAM was, I agree) and generally damaged the franchise, but really without them who knows where Sonic would have gotten to in the 90's over in the west?
As a franchise, having simply Sonic 1, CD, 2, 3 & K would not have been enough to generate interest as much as it did. Of course it would have helped continuity both in game and in the public eye by omitting the many 'origin' stories, exra lame characters, voice acting, and shitty dark locations not fit for Sonic, but both of those issues have already been rectified with Sonic Adventure, entirely cutting off the western dramatization and linking the new with the old. Sonic Adventure is as 'Sonic' as it gets- we'd only really seen 5 main games previously, so we didn't have much to judge on. The games that haven't been very Sonic-like were Riders and Sonic 2006, and both of those never really took off the ground at all. Sonic isn't the only series confined to having shit games marring its reputation, with even Mario having some crap. I can't really say I like Super Mario Bros 2 (US), or the party games, or the SuperStar games, or the many sports games and spin offs outside of the main franchise (excluding Mario Kart).

Also, surely I'm not the only one who woulda given Colours an 8.5 and Generations a 9? Those games were great and expanded and refined the 3D gameplay whislt giving us the old awesome 2D stuff back, with shit tonnes of extras and replay value.
All in all it was a good effort, but I can't say I really agreed hands down that the 3D is all shit and that we shouldn't or can't have spin off stuff. It's just that the spin off stuff NEEDS to be fun or good. Barring the fishing, I really enjoyed the rest of it during what Generations calls the Dreamcast era. If anything, it was the difficulty which pissed me to fuck. 180 emblems with a shit load of crap to do it? Bullcrap.

Edit: you also missed Chronicles, and I would have gladly had you rip that to pieces. That game was an attempt at something. I'm not sure what, but it definitely was. And it failed.
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FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I FUCKING LOVE SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG

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dude, you are not a fucking critic. not even a good one. I know it's your opinion on the sonic franchise. but you crossed the line when you said sonic SatAM was worse then the adventures of sonic. SatAM is awesome, adventures was shit. I know this video is you opinion, heres mine. FUCK YOU!!!! YOU ARE A PIECE OF SHIT THAT CAME OUT THE WORST MOVIE IN HISTORY'S SHIT'S SHIT'S SHIT'S SHIT'S ASS HOLE. FUCK

-korijoe


Yikes. O_O Frankly, I wouldn't worry about fans like these. Give them a few years and they'll grow out of it. I know I grew out of my stupid Sonic/X-Files crossover fanfiction ideas with my own fan character, so hopefully they'll wise up a bit too. Unless they're like that Chris-chan guy...

Like I said in the other topic, not a bad movie at all. Only complaint I have is that I could've done without the MJ joke you sneaked in there, but knowing you I guess I should've seen it coming. >.> The rest of it was funny and quite informative, like I didn't know about the thing with Yuji Naka pretty much killing Sonic X-Treme. Or maybe I did know that already and forgot. :P

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I enjoyed the video for the most part but like a lot of people said, the later half felt a lot more half assed, lack of explanation for certain games,and some of the trolling about the quality of certain games might not have been a great idea for accuracy sake. I also wonder why Tails Adventure wasn't mentioned at all and I was shocked you liked Sonic R. On the plus side, I did learn some interesting facts, some moments were pretty funny, and it put some things into perspective I never really thought of before.

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Aside from the Chaotix and Sonic 06 parts, I didn't find it funny. I could have done without the the immature humor.

Good job trolling though.

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As I said to you already man, the documentary is fantastic. And the comments / views of Gov remind me of the golden days of Sonic CulT. It seems that if the website was to return to a "modern" fan-base that's about today, this would be the introduction page instead of Sonic Wars.

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