[tokumaru]

I'm just glad we have people that have not given up on finding a Sonic 1 proto. I wouldn't know where to begin such a hunt, so I'm glad we have people who know what they're doing taking care of it. Ever since I discovered this page (S2BETA!), there's nothing I wish more than seeing a Sonic 1 prototype. Seeing other possibilities for the franchise, how different the first few games could have been like... I'm fascinated by this idea.

These videos in particular didn't impress me much... One of the reasons I thought they were fake was the complete absence of anything new. Absolutely everything in them was already known from screenshots or interviews, and this really made them scream out "recreation!". If we ever found anything this early, chances are there would be something, no matter how small, that wasn't documented before.

[Cinossu]

corneliab, on 11 February 2012 - 05:35 PM, said:

Who is "we"?

we/wē/
Pronoun:

1. Used by a speaker to refer to himself or herself and one or more other people considered together: "shall we have a drink?".
2. Used to refer to the speaker together with other people regarded in the same category: "we teachers".

Hey look, I can be a dick too!

corneliab, on 11 February 2012 - 05:35 PM, said:

This thing was slapdash at best and most people weren't giving him the benefit of the doubt. Combined with his hopelessly oblivious and persistently unhelpful persona, it's a wonder that a select few were sticking up for him to begin with.

Excuse me? You posted once previous in this thread, and that was in reply to me with a completely unhelpful comment about the topic having "been shit from the start". Also, "persistently unhelpful persona" is a bit of a stretch, especially when there's a damn language barrier (I know there wasn't, it was faked, but you get my point that it can and does happen, a lot).

corneliab, on 11 February 2012 - 05:35 PM, said:

Also, it's funny how this thread didn't just get trashed. In the general Sonic forum, this thing belonged for a few pages back when it was just a funny little recent oddity. As a fangame, it doesn't merit much discussion beyond it having shitty physics, inaccurately replicated art, and next to no content. Gee, how interesting!

Hey, guess what? You see the X button at the top of your browser? You don't have to read a topic if you don't like it! What a concept, eh?

When all you have to a post is a complaint that's already been reiterated a thousand times, not only by yourself at least once but everyone else, then your post just becomes a "+1 ego". Enough of it.

[corneliab]

Cinossu, on 12 February 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

a whole bunch of whining

It's funny how only a couple of lines in there are actually responding to my points, while the rest of it is basically just you being a smartass and resorting to "if you don't like it you don't have to read it." How the fuck does that even make sense. I'm responding because I don't like it- it's a goddamn discussion.

So yeah, I stand by what I said. Based on the above I'm assuming that you can only agree with it.

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Also, "persistently unhelpful persona" is a bit of a stretch, especially when there's a damn language barrier (I know there wasn't, it was faked, but you get my point that it can and does happen, a lot).

It's not a stretch, considering it's EXACTLY what I said. When combined with dodgy, limited footage that was becoming increasingly suspect, there really wasn't any good reason to continue humoring the guy and his incredibly convenient excuse. An excuse, might I add, was one that he wasn't even pulling off well. Kiddo Cabbusses already covered that.

[Travelsonic]

corneliab, on 12 February 2012 - 10:41 PM, said:

It's not a stretch, considering it's EXACTLY what I said. When combined with dodgy, limited footage that was becoming increasingly suspect, there really wasn't any good reason to continue humoring the guy and his incredibly convenient excuse.

None of which justifies, IMO, your musing over the thread not being binned sooner - until it was proven fake with definitive things like the confession/release of the fangame, which we had to badger the shit out of the video uploader to get, all we had was plenty of supporting evidence, and speculation. Declaring something to be X, without solid proof of it's truthfulness is ignorant - though we have enough EVIDENCE to say it is POSSIBLE, until we got that confession, we only had scant amount of theories, evidence from both sides - good AND bad - and arguing. Essentially, you were saying that the thread should have been binned purely because you thought so, and that's all the proof there needed to be [as oppose to those on both sides actually putting thought and reasoning into the validity or lack thereof, and DISCUSSING it.]

[Kiddo Cabbusses]

Travelsonic, on 14 February 2012 - 06:18 PM, said:

Until it was proven fake with definitive things like the confession/release of the fangame, which we had to badger the shit out of the video uploader to get, all we had was plenty of supporting evidence, and speculation.

STILL no respect for the techies, huh? Isn't "THIS CRAP COULDN'T ACTUALLY RUN ON OLD HARDWARE" or "THIS DOESN'T MATCH UP WITH HOW THE GAME IS PROGRAMMED AT ALL" definitive proof enough? Even if you don't agree with those, -blatantly contradicting known knowledge about the prototype- should've been the sinker.
Again, it sounds more to me like the actual, definitive proof was just ignored by the hopelessly hopefuls.

[Hez]

Quit beating a fucking dead horse. People here are retarded, even the admins and techies. Get over it and move on. We're all retarded.

[Chilly Willy]

Hez, on 16 February 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

Quit beating a fucking dead horse. People here are retarded, even the admins and techies. Get over it and move on. We're all retarded.

Hey! I'll have you know I'm an IDIOT, not retarded!

In any case, I like the background layers. Very nice.

[Arique]

Oh hey, NEK0San posted a new video to his fangame:

That title screen recreation looks really cool.

[Travelsonic]

Kiddo Cabbusses, on 16 February 2012 - 01:14 PM, said:

Travelsonic, on 14 February 2012 - 06:18 PM, said:

Until it was proven fake with definitive things like the confession/release of the fangame, which we had to badger the shit out of the video uploader to get, all we had was plenty of supporting evidence, and speculation.

STILL no respect for the techies, huh?

A differing opinion is not "disrespect" - get your foot out of your ass will you? We've disagreed with each other - we merely meaning people in the community - and we still respect the work we put into looking at this, thinking about the what ifs, and contacting the right people to find out more about our curiosities. We don't have to agree to be respectful of one another.


Anyways, the title screen, if one was present in the previous versions, would have given me major suspicions, since it didn't feature the inner ring extending down below the sonic the Hedgehog logo.

[H Hog]

[Video]
Does that sign really say "Segasonic"? I thought that was a phrase coined within the fandom (possibly by AJ Freda when his site was named that way) to be able to differentiate between the Game and Comic/Cartoon canons. o_o

[SpeedStarTMQ]

I disagree that we didn't have enough evidence to fully prove this was fake to begin with. It's like having some naked woman standing there fully baring her body and clasping her birth certificate between her breasts, and us going "Yeah, we can't say definitely you're a chick until we take some DNA samples". I mean, really???

[Overlord]

H Hog, on 11 March 2012 - 12:48 PM, said:

[Video]
Does that sign really say "Segasonic"? I thought that was a phrase coined within the fandom (possibly by AJ Freda when his site was named that way) to be able to differentiate between the Game and Comic/Cartoon canons. o_o

SegaSonic the Hedgehog

Term has been around longer than the community has. =P

[H Hog]

...*facepalm* Doy. Completely forgot about that, haha.