[TimmiT]

Skaarg, on 10 July 2012 - 11:59 AM, said:

So after hearing about the international version being released I finally decided to check back in to this thread. I didn't realize that PSO2 had been in open beta for the jp servers. So I've almost got the client downloaded, but can't wait to try it out. I read english speakers have been on ships 2/10, but those are now not accepting new characters. Is there a ship/block that is open that anyone on here has been playing on (hopefully with other english speakers)?

Actually, it's no longer in beta, the game has now been fully released in Japan.

I'm probably going to wait until there's a fan translation patch until I play it. Don't want to constantly switch out of the game and look up a translation so I can now what is going on.

[Andlabs]

http://sega.jp/cgi-b...sgame.cgi?hw=11 (PC)
ファンタシースターオンライン2 プレミアムパッケージ
2012/9/13 6,279円(税込)
"Phantasy Star Online 2 Premium Package"
no clue what it comes with though; the website doesn't seem to talk about it?

Also that page lists 4 June as the release date for the regular game... but isn't that the open beta release? Or is this the final release?

This post has been edited by Andlabs: 10 July 2012 - 03:39 PM

[sonicblur]

Andlabs, on 10 July 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:

http://sega.jp/cgi-b...sgame.cgi?hw=11 (PC)
ファンタシースターオンライン2 プレミアムパッケージ
2012/9/13 6,279円(税込)
"Phantasy Star Online 2 Premium Package"
no clue what it comes with though; the website doesn't seem to talk about it?

Also that page lists 4 June as the release date for the regular game... but isn't that the open beta release? Or is this the final release?

The game was released on 4 July. The ship blocks were re-organized then, and 2/20-23 are supposed to be for level 40-ish people. I believe some English speaking people are now on 2/30-ish, which is for any user, but others have ignored the new level suggestions and continue to use 20-23. I've read that they kind of spread out a bit. I'm not positive on this, because I haven't actually played since the official release last week.

The premium package comes with mostly useless stuff. I can't find anywhere listing it anymore, but it includes 5 scape dolls, some additional weapons, additional inventory slots, and access to additional character clothes/decorations.

Don't expect a translation any time soon, especially from the same people who did the closed beta translation, because they don't actually know what the hell they're doing. They got lucky last time because Sega didn't encrypt the text data in the closed beta, but now that it's encrypted they obviously haven't done anything because they don't have anyone who knows how to disassemble the binary. The encryption is actually based on an open source algorithm, but it's been modified so it can't be used out of the box. (Not to mention you still need the key they're using to encrypt the files.)

[Andlabs]

Good to know, thanks. So what day was the open beta again? And didn't Sega of America already announce this game for a localized release?

This post has been edited by Andlabs: 10 July 2012 - 08:32 PM

[Azu]

sonicblur, on 10 July 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

Andlabs, on 10 July 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:

http://sega.jp/cgi-b...sgame.cgi?hw=11 (PC)
ファンタシースターオンライン2 プレミアムパッケージ
2012/9/13 6,279円(税込)
"Phantasy Star Online 2 Premium Package"
no clue what it comes with though; the website doesn't seem to talk about it?

Also that page lists 4 June as the release date for the regular game... but isn't that the open beta release? Or is this the final release?

The game was released on 4 July. The ship blocks were re-organized then, and 2/20-23 are supposed to be for level 40-ish people. I believe some English speaking people are now on 2/30-ish, which is for any user, but others have ignored the new level suggestions and continue to use 20-23. I've read that they kind of spread out a bit. I'm not positive on this, because I haven't actually played since the official release last week.

The premium package comes with mostly useless stuff. I can't find anywhere listing it anymore, but it includes 5 scape dolls, some additional weapons, additional inventory slots, and access to additional character clothes/decorations.

Don't expect a translation any time soon, especially from the same people who did the closed beta translation, because they don't actually know what the hell they're doing. They got lucky last time because Sega didn't encrypt the text data in the closed beta, but now that it's encrypted they obviously haven't done anything because they don't have anyone who knows how to disassemble the binary. The encryption is actually based on an open source algorithm, but it's been modified so it can't be used out of the box. (Not to mention you still need the key they're using to encrypt the files.)

From what I've read, they also have the text stored serverside. I wonder if it's possible to copy the English files to the Japanese one once it comes out. Since people seem to bitch about content, although personally, I don't mind since I just want to play it in English instead of look at guides every half-second.

[sonicblur]

Azu, on 11 July 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

From what I've read, they also have the text stored serverside. I wonder if it's possible to copy the English files to the Japanese one once it comes out. Since people seem to bitch about content, although personally, I don't mind since I just want to play it in English instead of look at guides every half-second.

Not quite. Nothing has significantly changed from the closed beta and character creator.
Yes, all of the "game" text (NPC's, quests, system messages, I'm pretty sure item names too) comes from the server. A lot of the menu options and stuff like that is still on the client side because it has to be. How else are you going to see any text before you've even logged in? If they translate what they can, you still won't be able to follow the story but you'll at least be able to navigate the menus a bit easier.

Theoretically "anything" could be translated, even server side text, if they hook the game in a manner that GameGuard can't detect and translate the text in memory before the game uses it. But that's a lot more effort than being able to translate the client files, not to mention it could easily be broken with a single update to the client. (Well, they could also break translated local files in a single update to the client, like they did between Closed and Open beta, but they'd probably be more upset over the approach that would need to bypass GameGuard.)

[JinKusiraga]

sonicblur, on 10 July 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

The premium package comes with mostly useless stuff. I can't find anywhere listing it anymore, but it includes 5 scape dolls, some additional weapons, additional inventory slots, and access to additional character clothes/decorations.

To clarify a bit on the premium package a little bit, it allows access to the Item Trader (basic trading), My Shop (auction house), My Room, Premium Storage, FUN Point Boost and Premium Block. You can purchase rentals of My Shop and My Room separately, however.
Personally, I'm a little miffed you have to pay to be able to trade items to people you know in any way (you can do so through auction house as well, even if only one of you have My Shop access, but that can be tricky; auction house sharks everywhere), but it isn't something that totally constricts the game, so... it's kinda something you just have to deal with.

[Covarr]

So PSO2 gets hacked because it's Japan-only... after it's announced for a global release.

Good work, people. Really showing why humanity is smart and awesome.

[JaxTH]

Covarr, on 12 July 2012 - 11:38 AM, said:

So PSO2 gets hacked because it's Japan-only... after it's announced for a global release.

Good work, people. Really showing why humanity is smart and awesome.

Actually it's because of no Global servers, not that the game was "Japan only'.

[Candescence]

Though, let's be frank, the lack of global servers was a terrible, terrible move.

[Vinchenz]

So I'm downloading the game. Any Retro members on any specific ship?

I think I may go on Ship 10 (although 2 probably has more English speakers...)

[Morph]

I'm on Ship 2, block... whatever. I avoid the popular blocks 20 and 21 because of the really annoying symbol art spam (which is in a lot of cases NSFW). I would disable it, but eh, effort.

[Vinchenz]

Yeah I chose Ship 2.

I'm sort of getting an idea of what I'm doing but my God do I feel intimidated by all the Japanese.

I only really want to try the game out, anyway. I won't play it too seriously for now.

[Skaarg]

I finally got around to playing last night. Made this badass little dude who I'll have to recreate once the US servers launch.



I figured out how to do a few quests, and overall had fun. I think it'll be 20x more fun once I understand everything I'm reading, but the gameplay feels right so far.

[Vinchenz]

Managed to make some friends with other English Bros. so hopefully I shall be questing more.

The gameplay feels so smooth. It feels like an actual evolution of the PSO gameplay, unlike how PSU was. Dodging, guarding, jumping and the fast attacks... I love it. I shall be properly addicted once this hits NA.