[Andlabs]

IIRC didn't OutRun hide the credits in some clever way? According to GameFAQs it's "enter your name as ENDING"... which works, but it uses Passing Breeze. Maybe it's unused? Maybe I need to win rather than use a hidden option?

As for OutRunners it might be hidden as well? I could check

This post has been edited by Andlabs: 17 May 2012 - 12:17 PM

[Sik]

Andlabs, on 17 May 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

As for OutRunners it might be hidden as well? I could check

Well, I played it and won the race (by 3 seconds...) and I didn't even get a highscore screen, the game got reset immediately after the minimap showing which forks were taken. I was playing in Arcade mode, maybe Original mode is different?

Also that tune isn't in the rip from Project 2612.

EDIT: forget that, Project 2612's rip is far from complete, I found a Virtua Racing jingle LOL (it plays if you select the Virtua car which is unlocked through a cheat in the title screen). Also surprised how well that car handles, I thought its grip was gonna be crap like its Virtua Racing counterpart.

This post has been edited by Sik: 17 May 2012 - 12:42 PM

[Andlabs]

Gah ignore me I can't read :| I thought the video was from OutRun, not OutRunners

I tried to start looking through OutRunners but whatever I do to force the game to do something different causes the game to break :/ Maybe if I just disassemble everything blindly, figure out if that song is in the game, and where it plays...

[Black Squirrel]

The North American OutRunners doesn't have the Virtua Racing stuff in it. Only the Japanese version does.

But I checked both and I don't think either have credits screens. Unless you have to do something amazing.

I imagine if it exists, it's hidden within the ROM somewhere.

[Sik]

Well, turns out there are credits if you beat Original mode after all (using that BGM in the video). And the Virtua Racing car is the final challenger, including the menu theme changing to the Virtua Racing one the moment it's revealed. The Winner tune is completely different for that last race too o_O;

EDIT:

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<andlabs> Sik: can you post the savestates in the thread then

Credits: http://sik.mdscene.n...)%20%5b!%5d.gs1
Race against VR car: http://sik.mdscene.n...)%20%5b!%5d.gs0

This post has been edited by Sik: 17 May 2012 - 02:09 PM

[Andlabs]

http://idisk.mac.com...nerscredits.mp4 video, recorded from Kega running under wine so there's going to be some sound errors
I don't recognize these nicknames (except Milpo, of course =P )

[Sik]

¯\(º_o)/¯

Apparently beating Original mode entering the Virtua Formula cheat unlocks the following in the BGM test:

• Jingle Bell
  
• Mode select
  
• Beginner start
  
• Goal
  
• Staff roll

This post has been edited by Sik: 18 May 2012 - 03:17 AM

[Andlabs]

Do we know who Duke in Dynamite Dux's credits is?

This post has been edited by Andlabs: 20 May 2012 - 02:06 PM

[ICEknight]

Andlabs, on 20 May 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:

Do we know who Duke in Dynamite Dux's credits is?

...And could it be related to "Dynamite Duke"?

[Black Squirrel]

sup
http://segaretro.org..._Front_NTSC.jpg
Find me an "Asian" country which uses NTSC, and has its mains electricity at 200-240V.

My current wild stab in the dark is the Philippines. I'm hoping someone knows more about this than I do.

[Black Squirrel]

And here's another "Asian" Saturn to confuse me
http://segaretro.org..._NTSC_White.jpg
This shouldn't be as confusing. Distributors often slapped their little stickers on boxes and they an be traced back to a country. This one has a "Wywy Group" sticker - I've traced this back to Singapore.

But this doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. Singapore uses PAL-B/G, not NTSC. Though they do meet the voltage requirement at 230V.

"Well obviously, Squirrel, they couldn't care less and sold NTSC stuff to PAL users"

Wrong
http://i49.tinypic.com/2uh4dpw.jpg
Mega Drive games were PAL. So either a conscious effort was made to sell incompatible hardware or we're dealing with another country. Problem is, the Wywy Group was booming in the 1990s, and then we start running into problems, because suddenly you find their operations span a good chunk of the region.

How big were this company? They worked with Sega to build indoor theme parks. I think it was called "E-Zone". I don't know it still exists.

They were in Indonesia and Malaysia, but neither use NTSC. They were in Thailand, but Thailand had its own distributor.

http://en.wikipedia....s_power_systems
http://countrycode.org/tv-standards



oh and in other news

did you know they sold Sega 32Xes to war-torn gulf states?

[Sik]

Black Squirrel, on 22 May 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

So either a conscious effort was made to sell incompatible hardware or we're dealing with another country.

Or they're like Argentina and TVs support both PAL and NTSC (over here our analog TV system is PAL-N but originally VCRs were NTSC only so TVs started supporting both systems, and it stuck).

[Black Squirrel]

Considering I started the day thinking I wouldn't find any Asian models at all, I've done rather well

A partially solved issue
http://segaretro.org...K_Box_Front.jpg
Though you can barely read it in this image, there's a sticker that reads "WKK something". So I'm pretty confident at this stage that this is a Saturn from Hong Kong.

http://segaretro.org...ont_White_2.jpg
Don't recognise the logo on this one though. There's actually quite a bit of text but the shininess doesn't agree with cameras. I think it might be from Thailand... but if it is, that means Sega changed distributors between this and the Mega Drive

http://segaretro.org...x_Front_VCD.jpg
This one is pretty amazing though, to the point where I'm not even sure Japan got it. It's a Sega Saturn... with the ability to play VCDs. There are cards that let you do this in other regions, but I've not encountered a Saturn that has this functionality straight out of the box...
http://segaretro.org...turn_AS_VCD.jpg
..and actually prints it proudly on the console

for the record, VCDs were strangely popular around China and surrounding countries, but were never really picked up by anyone else. We were all happy to stick with VHS and move on to DVD.

[Andlabs]

#2: Galaxy of Thailand? That is definitely the logo, and the About page definitely says Sega

#3:

Japan did get what they called the Movie Card. Running on the assumption that Japan did get this console, though: Strange is that that's the white Saturn...Sega's page on the white Saturn says nothing about a Video CD mode. Do we know what the model number is?

http://sega.jp/archi...rd/ss/data.html "日立からはビデオＣＤとフォトＣＤ機能が標準装備された「ハイサターン」が登場した。" what is this saying?

This post has been edited by Andlabs: 22 May 2012 - 05:51 PM

[Black Squirrel]

It's MK-80230-07
http://i49.servimg.c...91/ss20-212.jpg

There's a good chance the HiSaturns or V-Saturns had VCD support straight out of the box but I'm pretty sure none were released by Sega. VCD wasn't amazingly popular in Japan either. Tons of people got the Video CD Card but it was always something you would buy separately


good to have confirmation on the Thailand one though

This post has been edited by Black Squirrel: 23 May 2012 - 06:46 AM