[Black Squirrel]

But how much of that is speculation?

(seriously I don't know - I can't read Japanese. Lots of Saturn speculation though)


I never really doubted it myself btw

[doc eggfan]

How would we feel about expanding this table to include NAOMI and Atomiswave games?

Dreamcast Diaspora

I remember there were rumours around 2007-08 of games like Melty Blood and Shooting Love. 2007 getting official Dreamcast ports in its twilight years.

This post has been edited by doc eggfan: 19 May 2015 - 06:13 PM

[Black Squirrel]

I don't see much point in that table existing when we have a category.

And I mean, there's absolutely no proof at all that things like Shadow the Hedgehog were Dreamcast-bound. Yes it probably would have been released on the Dreamcast were they still making them in 2005. It would probably be released on the Saturn too if that was still popular.

[doc eggfan]

Yeah, I thought some of the items listed in the diaspora were a little bit eroneous, with some released late into the PS2's shelf life with virtually zero conjecture around whether it was onced considered bound for Dreamcast.

If the dreamcast had financially bouyed Sega beyond 2001, it's likely that there would have been a "Dreamcast 2" or at least some kind of upgrade before the end of the "6th generation," which would have made things interesting - would it have been an early entrant into the "7th generation"? Would it have hastened other players to prematurely release follow up systems?

Anyways, should I add Melty Blood and Shooting Love to the list of unreleased dreamcast titles? I have no evidence other than my own memory regarding rumours at that time.

[Black Squirrel]

If there's no evidence, it could be misleading. It's not like there's a rush - if something comes up we can add it then.

Lists like these are generally a bad thing. Ideally everything on this list should get its own page, and once we have pages... we can use magic to auto-generate lists. Maybe. It's easier to maintain that way.

But a lot of the detail is buried in magazines and nobody has gone digging.

[doc eggfan]

In the case of Melty Blood and Exzeal, they won't be in magazines since all the dreamcast mags were long dead and the mainstream pubs didn't care by then.

I think melty blood was just conjecture and a petition - it went from pc to naomi to an enhanced port on ps2, and those enhancements were ported back to naomi and pc. It seemed silly at the time for one of those naomi versions to not be trivially ported to dreamcast at some point, and a new beat-em-up would have sold well amongst and endless parade of shmups.

With Exzeal/Shooting Love though, I'm pretty sure the president of triangle service was pretty vocal with his support for a dreamcast port, writing an open letter and supporting the petition. I think Sega was refusing to license the port as they had ceased gd-rom production, and triangle service couldn't go down the route of publishing an unlicensed cd-rom like other indie games for fear of losing sega's support in further arcade ventures. A quick search didn't yield this open letter though.

[ICEknight]

Xilla, on 18 May 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

The planning documents for Streets of Rage 2 recently made their way online. In Japanese of course but you'll see quite a few things (and some nice art) which didn't make their way into the final game.

Oh, here's some translations of those: http://forums.lostle...p?p=34494#34494

[N!NJA]

Pirate Dragon, on 09 April 2015 - 12:20 PM, said:

There's a thread about them on SMS Power. Looking through it I noticed another one;



The "M" is quite different to the Asian 32X and Mega Games "M", but the letter font changes depending on the letter's position (notice the two different "A"s in "GAME GEAR"), so maybe that could explain the difference. Maybe this really is an official Asian game, is it currently for sale?

Just found a copy on ebay but loose, Not sure if anybody from here is interested?



http://www.ebay.com/...l-/171789573591

Would buy myself but I live in the UK and the seller doesn't ship here.

EDIT: Interesting quote from the seller,

Quote

the Sonic and Tails 2 cartridge is an interesting one. Although the game data is the same as the Japanese version (meaning this is not Triple Trouble and actually has the secret 3D mini-game) the label is much different from the original. At first, I thought this was a rare Asian version of a Game Gear game. Unfortunately, there is no evidence of that at the moment and from the looks of it, it's a copy from Hong Kong (I assume because the PCB says GG HK). Nevertheless, it's an interesting piece to collect

This post has been edited by N!NJA: 07 June 2015 - 04:33 PM

[Black Squirrel]

It's a bootleg - real carts have "Sega" engraved in the centre.

[N!NJA]

Black Squirrel, on 07 June 2015 - 04:50 PM, said:

It's a bootleg - real carts have "Sega" engraved in the centre.

Ah thanks, makes sense now. Was worried I have a whole new set of games to look out for haha.

[Pirate Dragon]

There is an original version too, but there seems to be more bootlegs of it. Here's a complete bootleg;



And original loose cart;



Original version should have a bigger western size box with hangtab. I've seen bootlegs of this style of MD game too.

[N!NJA]

Pirate Dragon, on 07 June 2015 - 05:43 PM, said:

There is an original version too, but there seems to be more bootlegs of it. Here's a complete bootleg;



And original loose cart;



Original version should have a bigger western size box with hangtab. I've seen bootlegs of this style of MD game too.

Thank you for these pics! I was pretty sure there must be a legit version and you're right this was a bootleg (which is a shame) The WIKI here is rather lacking on info on the rarer games. Noticed it's missing quite a few Game Gear one's like the Korean Sonic 1 etc.

Hate to ask more of you though but any idea where about's you found that bootleg or was it just ebay?

As for the MD versions with this style art only one I know of is Sonic & Knuckles http://I.imgur.com/YTi1FVz.jpg (this is my copy by the way and original)

Thanks

This post has been edited by N!NJA: 07 June 2015 - 07:11 PM

[Pirate Dragon]

I don't recall where that exact picture came from, but there was a few bootlegs on http://www.ruten.com.tw/ However, some of the listings are several years old.

[Black Squirrel]

There was a period between about 1998 and 2001 where Sega bought the Puyo Puyo license from Compile, but Compile still made Puyo Puyo games. Sega Retro was missing a few titles, but this is the best one:

Puyo Puyo~n Party for the Nintendo 64.


This means, although the company was not always directly involved, there is a "Sega" game on every Nintendo home video game console (with the exception of the Color TV Game Pong clones). Thought you might want to know.

[GagaMan]

Sega buying out Puyo Puyo is the Microsoft buying out Minecraft of the nighties, I suppose. :P