[Lanzer]

Namo, if you look above at my post they said they were going to release sonic's story but something held them up for them to finish it. looks like they got it sorted out.

Now lets see what they fixed...

[Namo]

Oh, my mistake then. So I take it they plan on making Shadow and Silver's stories too?

Light dash is mapped to the X key now, but you have to get the timing on it just right in order for it to do anything. Also the homing attack ditches all forward momentum, so if you're ever thinking of using it to extend your jump distance, you'll want to think again. Sonic's animations are nice and the enemies look good, but they really clash with everything else. The environments are blobs or shapes with the environment textures from 06 slapped over them, and it's often confusing what is part of the background and what isn't.

The boss arenas (and level backgrounds) use a cool pseudo-3D effect which is nice.

In terms of gameplay there isn't much improvement from the last demo. It still feels choppy to play. Overall, it feels like they focused more on making a Sonic 06 game than a Sonic game, if that makes any sense.

[Lanzer]

Namo, on 10 December 2011 - 02:32 PM, said:

In terms of gameplay there isn't much improvement from the last demo. It still feels choppy to play. Overall, it feels like they focused more on making a Sonic 06 game than a Sonic game, if that makes any sense.

Actually it does if you read Azukara's quote in the first post. and I do believe there going to recreate the full STH2006 game but they were focusing on Sonic's story first.

Btw, its updated. sorry about the broken post.

This post has been edited by Lanzer: 10 December 2011 - 02:44 PM

[Chimpo]

Namo, on 10 December 2011 - 02:32 PM, said:

Light dash is mapped to the X key now, but you have to get the timing on it just right in order for it to do anything. Also the homing attack ditches all forward momentum, so if you're ever thinking of using it to extend your jump distance, you'll want to think again. Sonic's animations are nice and the enemies look good, but they really clash with everything else. The environments are blobs or shapes with the environment textures from 06 slapped over them, and it's often confusing what is part of the background and what isn't.

Man, this game really emulates the Sonic 06 experience.

[Azukara]

This game had potential to be something good.. *sigh* I really have no idea why emulating all the flaws of 06 was thought to be a good idea, or a point behind building the game.

[Bareirito]

Dusty desert really got annoying with insta-kill sand and the different physics, it just plain bad.

Aside from that is a good remake but as the others said the creator of this didn't had to replicate the bad elements of the game.

P.D.: Spin jump should hurt enemies!

This post has been edited by Bareirito: 10 December 2011 - 09:52 PM

[BlazeHedgehog]

I don't know if I'd necessarily call this bad. There's a few questionable decisions here and there (especially when they decide to stick frustratingly true to a bad game design decision), but it's... well, interesting, I guess. And weird.

I beat the whole thing a few hours ago, still collecting my thoughts. Might write something up for TSSZ.

[Epsilonsama]

Of all the pointless things someone can do I think this is one of the top. This is something I have disused with my friends, Sonic 2k6 is a really bad game. Even if the game wasn't a broken piece of Alpha Stage garbage it would still suck. The level design was uninspired, the hub worlds to big, the story was worse than your average fan fiction. The only way 2k6 could be good is if they recreate the game from the ground up but by then it wont be 2k6.

[P3DR0]

At first I was liking the direction that this game was taking, it had pretty cool sprites, used some cool 3d technics, had physics to the objects. It was pretty decent, I guess.

But after I played I saw how this game is bad. I mean, you can't blame the guys who did, the job was done... Even better than any S2k6 Remake on the fangame community. But the problem is, instead of making the game enjoyable, fun, and actually decent, he tried to replicate S2k6 in a almost 1:1 scale. So that included the flaws as well... And man, they're fucking everywhere. I mean you can't jump on enemies, you HAVE to use homming attack (which sucks and actually gets you killed sometimes because you try to play a Sonic game, like running and jumping and the goddamn enemy hits you cause you'd jumped on his fucking face at 120mph in a fucking spike form)... But that's ok... Right...

So... The level design, oh dear god. The obvious and tedious alternative paths that leads you to almost nowhere, the shortcuts that actually makes you go slower than the normal path. The holes... The holes are everywhere! The gameplay is bad, the moves doesn't work well, you are never sure when you can homming attack something or not. Sonic run slow as fuck, there is no momentum.

That desert level was one of the worst levels I'd ever seen in a game. It first show you that you can't step on the sand otherwise you will die. Then after you jump across a few deadly-sand dunes, you find youself on a ground too big to homming attack. The game taught you that you would be killed if you touch on the sand, so what the fuck shall you do? So after facing your own fear, you go ahead and try to jump... For your surprise, this fucking sand doesn't kill you anymore. Oh dear god, what the fuck. It's almost like you have a Green Hill Zone level, and you play through it 'till you come to the very ending of it... And when you got there, the ground has no collision or that grass hurts you. Like what the fuck?!

That Iblis boss... Oh my god, if you miss a jump or Iblis hits you, the plataform will NOT reapear in a certain point, you're stuck 'til you die. So you gotta start again a boring as fuck boss battle all over again.

The game gives you no indication to where the fuck you have to go sometimes, like on the Tropical Jungle level where you have a fucking reverse-C pipe leading you to a hanging flower. The way that the C shit throws you give you the impression that you have to go to the left then. But no. You have to go to the fucking right. Like, how the fuck should I know that? I can't see the ground on the right, the C-thing dropped me for the left. Luckly the level design is so bad, but so bad, that now you can be sure that all you gotta do is go to right, doesn't matter what and luckly in 1~2 minutes you will be hitting that Giant Ring and reciving a Rank for a level that the dashpads made pratically 70% of the work, the other 70% (lol, no russia jokes, sorry) 30% is just you homming attacking the shit out of enemies placed always in the WORST spot possible and avoiding random holes that will give you a instant death.


It's a shame overall because when you see the 3D graphics, the cool effects, the custom sprites, etc... Makes you kinda feel like, this is THE game. A remarkable game that will be remembered to generations to come. A game that will inspire many people, a game that "will teach SEGA how they have to do their games" like the newcomers on fangaming LOVE to say.

But actually, when you see how bad this game is and how much work, time and resources were wasted. All you feel is sadness because you see two talented people (the creators of the game) with so much potential, wasting their time creating one of the best looking Sonic fangames of 2011 and also one of the worst Sonic fangames of 2011 instead of creating an unique and truly enjoyable experience.


I just hope that both of them don't give up on making fangames and that the next one will be like a decent game.


If I would give a score would be: 3/10

+Great graphics
+Recreates perfectly the experience of Sonic the Hedgehog '06...
- ... which is terrible because... Well... It's STH'06. I'm not really sure why would someone tries to recreate that nowadays (in 2006~2007 I would understand, actually (even because I had something similar to it, back in the days), but not on 2011).
- One of the worst gameplay that I'd seen since the Plataform Movement was "banished" from this world.
- Automatic as fuck I'd to double check a few times to be sure that I was playing a game and not watching a video.
- Terrible level design.

[Thousand Pancake]

If this version doesn't have so many of the bugs, why doesn't Sonic move faster? The only reason he moved so slow in the first place was to hide the poor collision detection.

It seems to me that the developers got so obsessed with recreating the game that they forgot that they were actually trying to recreate the original and improve on it, rather than recreate the original verbatim. If they do make Shadow's story, he'd better move 5x faster. And he should be able to take out most baddies without a homing attack. And the level designs should be drastically overhauled.

These people should be writing emulators, not making games.

This post has been edited by Thousand Pancake: 13 December 2011 - 10:56 PM

[Aerosol]

Master trolls right here. Completely dedicated to their craft. I tip my hat to them.

[corneliab]

This is the most hilariously misguided thing I've seen in awhile. These fucks sure wasted their time.

[P3DR0]

AerosolSP, on 14 December 2011 - 04:33 AM, said:

Master trolls right here. Completely dedicated to their craft. I tip my hat to them.

Ok, they dedicated a lot of resources and time "to their craft". But I don't see why people that didn't liked it are "trolls". I hate this motherfucking new habit on the internet that if you criticize something or don't like it at all you're a troll, how fucked up is that? I'd been in communities of gamemaking (mostly back on the time that I was playing with RPG Maker (like a few months ago) just for fun) and there was a game that I'd commented on the thread something like: "Hey, you need to work on this sprite better it looks terrible (they were worst than terrible), the pivot doesn't match right (the "looking down" sprite was too down on the frame, while the other ones were too high) and the sprites doesn't match with the background (the person probably were using some of those downloadable tilesets)."

So a pretty good comment, isn't it? There was more, in fact, I also explained better why it didn't looked good, and shit like that... The next few posts were all the same "Hurr, troll", "hey OP, don't mind about this troll, this is looking awesome (it weren't)" and even the creator called me a troll. So I took my time and read the other posts on the thread to find out that the only comments that it had were (from various people, there was like, 3 pages of) "awesomeee!", "I'm loving it!", "woow looking great!", etcetera... And a few brave people like me who were capable of actually make some criticism were also called trolls and assholes.

That's fucked up.

About this one, It's clearly a crappy fangame, not the worst one out there but neither (and light-years far from beeing) the best one.

If I take some time and really dedicate myself on taking a shit, you know, going to the bathroom, taking my favorite book or magazine, lighting up a cigarette, get the softer toilet-paper on the market, putting one of those confortable and expensive toilet-seats and then release the kraken; A crap that I'd been holding for the whole week and I was on a great diet so it would look good, have a pretty color and not so much weight so that when it hits the water it wouldn't spill out in my butt.

And so, the magic is done, I'd dedicated time and resources to it, it was the most perfect shit that someone could possible make. Well it doesn't make it an piece of art. You know why? Because shit is shit. And you can't polish a turd.
Sonic 2k6 is a shitty game and so are this fangame.


Edit:
I think I misunderstood what AerosolSP was implying. Thanks to corneliab for letting me know and helping me "un-slowpoke". Ignore this post and move on. :3

This post has been edited by P3DR0: 14 December 2011 - 08:11 AM

[corneliab]

P3DR0, on 14 December 2011 - 07:36 AM, said:

completely pointless rant

You're flipping your shit over nothing. Aside from it being GLARINGLY OBVIOUS that AerosolSP was just being facetious, the "master trolls" he was referring to were clearly the game creators. Since, you know, they were determined to replicate all the nuances of a shitty game.

[P3DR0]

corneliab, on 14 December 2011 - 07:45 AM, said:

P3DR0, on 14 December 2011 - 07:36 AM, said:

completely pointless rant

You're flipping your shit over nothing. Aside from it being GLARINGLY OBVIOUS that AerosolSP was just being facetious, the "master trolls" he was referring to were clearly the game creators. Since, you know, they were determined to replicate all the nuances of a shitty game.

Clearly wasn't obvious enough (Edit: it actually was, just re-read the post and saw my slowpoke.jpg. Joke is on me), and unfortunally the "you're a troll if you criticize" is a common attitude on the internet nowadays. I didn't meant to be picky on AerosolSP and didn't got the memo that he was calling the creators of "master trolls" which if you come thinking about it, makes much sense.

Sorry, I wasn't built in with a manual of how to understand sarcasm on the internet. :'c

This post has been edited by P3DR0: 14 December 2011 - 08:12 AM