[Kiddo Cabbusses]

Black Squirrel, on 19 December 2014 - 04:38 PM, said:

Kiddo Cabbusses, on 19 December 2014 - 09:48 AM, said:

and Samsung's Thinko ... which aren't even touched yet.

I didn't even know this was a thing until right now. But is it in the scope of Sega Retro?

https://www.youtube....h?v=L_oTtBWB1_Q
It's hard to say, since while it isn't (as far as anyone knows) a Sega product, it was definitely something Samsung marketed as a Pico successor/followup, using their own Pico mascot and everything. It's a pretty unusual case as far the history of video games in general goes...

[Black Squirrel]

The only other example I can think of is in France, where the distributor of the SC-3000 was also selling the Cassette Vision and Super Cassette Vision, which were both Epoch inventions (and rivals to Sega in Japan), all under the same brand. So we can't really go on marketing alone.

So yes it's out of Sega Retro's scope, but anyone wanting to document that sort of thing should be encouraged all the same.

[Kiddo Cabbusses]

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got a package of new games this week, which I bought 2 months ago.


HPC-6012 - Soreike! Anpanman Eigo to Nakayoshi Youchien de ABC (Japan):



HPC-6022-00 - Magic Knight-Rayearth Magic Knight Tanjou (Japan):



HPC-6052-00 - Keyboard Pico 2 Set with Sawattemiyou! Yoiko no Hajimete Keyboard (Japan):

not working currently with any emulator

HPC-6130 - Pooh-san no Ichi Nichi (Japan) (Rev 1) (10th anniversary):

used the same rom as "HPC-6019-01 - Pooh-san no Ichi Nichi (Japan) (Rev 1)"

HPC-6142 - Tottoko Hamtarou Tottoko Tanoshiku Aiueo - Maboroshin o Hikaru Tane o Mitsukeru no dah! (Japan):



T-103020 - Ougon Yuusha Goldran Himitsu Daihyakka (Japan):



T-133220-00 - Denji Sentai Megaranger (Japan):



T-170020 - Ultraman Kids - Tobidase! Space Picnic (Japan):

dump was already available from cowering, here are the scans

T-233010-00 - Satonaka Machiko no Tanoshii Origami (Japan):



T-255010 - Mickey no Tokyo Disneyland Stamp Rally (Japan) (REV 0):




that's 8 new dumps, for which I paid more than 300EURO. I will release the dumps when 60EUR get donated to my paypal-account. thanks to all people who already help me preserving such games!

btw. we haven broken through the 300th mark today! the dat has now 302 games included!

the money got donated! Thank you very much!

DOWNLOAD:
http://www.sendspace...gtvreY3y72vtlJA

Have a Pico Christmas, I guess. :P

[Kiddo Cabbusses]

On a random revelation:
https://twitter.com/...7?cn=cmVwbHk%3D

It seems the Pico was originally patented with a design making use of a joystick.

[ICEknight]

Also...

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The control buttons 111 can be used for designating the location of characters, while the slide control member 112 can be used for changing the color of the screen or the characters.

The final design doesn't have any of these, does it? I wonder if there's any hidden inputs inside the circuitry that can actually be used, and that some of the earliest games may still react to.

This post has been edited by ICEknight: 08 January 2015 - 10:26 AM

[Kiddo Cabbusses]

I would assume the "control buttons" basically became the colored direction buttons and big red button... I got nothing on the slider, though.

[ICEknight]

Kiddo Cabbusses, on 08 January 2015 - 04:03 PM, said:

I would assume the "control buttons" basically became the colored direction buttons and big red button

I was assuming that those would be replacing the joystick... but who knows.

[Kiddo Cabbusses]

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MPR-18315 - Mickey - Viajando no Tempo (Brazil):



MPR-18318 - Ecco Jr. - No fundo do mar! (Brazil):



MPR-18319 - Cores Magicas (Brazil):

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here are the dumps:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/u3h3we

[Black Squirrel]

Might as well try and make another push...

Sega Retro recently hit a milestone, in that every officially licensed game released for a Sega console now has a page on the wiki... or rather, every console apart from the Pico and Beena. But we're still talking thousands over the course of five years, even if some of the later ones exist as little more than "x is a game".

I have a list of Pico/Beena games that need pages but the translations are dodgy and the facts sometimes wrong, so we're really looking for someone who might have even a fleeting interest in this subject to come forward and finish the job. Or at least double or triple check these translations so we can make stubs. There has to be something wrong because I can't currently prove some of these things exist!


What's the polite way of saying this - it's getting to a stage where the only games left are pink ones aimed at little girls, and I want to preserve my brain cells. Your brains are expendable />

[JaxTH]

Black Squirrel, on 28 February 2015 - 01:11 PM, said:

What's the polite way of saying this - it's getting to a stage where the only games left are pink ones aimed at little girls, and I want to preserve my brain cells. Your brains are expendable

I CAN tell you that when I was doing Digital Albums that I found out that Love & Berry was a media empire for SEGA at the time.

Toys, games, CDs, an anime (I can't confirm if it was a movie or a series).

[Kiddo Cabbusses]

Ah, thanks for bumping this, I nearly neglected to do an update;

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four more missing cartridges arrived last week!


HPC-6048 - Paketto 2 Yukai na Nakama to Game de Kazu Asobi (Japan):

this one was really expensive, over 60EUR...but also one of the best graphical games for the PICO

HPC-6145 - Disney Princess Suteki ni Lesson! Hiragana-Katakana (Japan):



T-133460 - Soreike! Anpanman no Medalympic World 2 (Best Selection) (Japan):

the first "Best Selection" game, which really had a new code-revision inside!

T-133470 - Tokusou Sentai Dekaranger (Japan):



these four games costed again more than 140euro's....again, I think a donation of 40euro's will be a fair amount.

thanks to "parappa620" who donated the 40euro's!

here are the roms:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/ti831v

EDIT: Oh, also some Brazil ROMs:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/u3h3we

This post has been edited by Kiddo Cabbusses: 01 March 2015 - 08:22 AM

[Black Squirrel]

JaxTH, on 28 February 2015 - 06:51 PM, said:

Black Squirrel, on 28 February 2015 - 01:11 PM, said:

What's the polite way of saying this - it's getting to a stage where the only games left are pink ones aimed at little girls, and I want to preserve my brain cells. Your brains are expendable

I CAN tell you that when I was doing Digital Albums that I found out that Love & Berry was a media empire for SEGA at the time.

Toys, games, CDs, an anime (I can't confirm if it was a movie or a series).

The worst offender will always be Sakura Taisen. It shows promise by having giant robots fight demons, but in practise it's 15+ years of singing and dancing (including live stage shows), topped with the occasional love triangle and mounds of exposition. It's the quintessential Japanese media franchise for someone like me to hate.

The good thing is there's no Sakura Taisen Pico games. The bad thing is that once these games are done, the focus for page creation will probably shift into areas like books and videos.


The Shining series of games has gone fluffy too. I'm sure there's meant to be more killing with swords.

[Kiddo Cabbusses]

Black Squirrel, on 01 March 2015 - 09:16 AM, said:

The Shining series of games has gone fluffy too. I'm sure there's meant to be more killing with swords.

I have nothing against Sakura Taisen considering the mix of dating sim and tactical RPG was a unique take on the genre, so the gameplay justified the more otaku-centric elements. Not to mention dating sims in general are an under-represented genre outside the eroge circles. And of course, the otaku in me would appreciate a game like this anyway.

But opinions about anime antics aside, Sega turning Shining into something that essentially amounted to otaku-pandering (I mean seriously, we went from marketing that played up the Tolkien-esque high fantasy and the actual gameplay elements to scenes of Tony Taka-designed girls dancing around for no real good reason that doesn't even tell me a damn thing about how the games play) that didn't resemble past games at all in the post-Camelot era is one thing I consider a grave error on their part, but it wouldn't have been AS bad if they didn't top it off by spitting in the face of any western audience they had left through the YouTube drama they pulled.

That being said, the Sega Retro section is barren on the cross-media stuff, isn't it? I remember when I was discussing this before and it ended up with a bit of a debate on whether the "Sands of Destruction" anime (the most recent Sega-sponsored one at the time of the debate) deserved an article. There's probably a buncha other Sega-sponsored TV programs that may have flown under the radar, and we'd probably have to dig into 80's and 90's anime to carefully check for that sort of thing in the cases where it isn't really obvious.

[Black Squirrel]

There's also Kouchuu Ouja Mushiking and Dinosaur King which are both big franchises with anime series' which have virtually no representation on Sega Retro. It's all about encouraging someone to step up to the plate and tackle these things. That being said there are some very strange things that I honestly don't know what to do with - there's a small handful of TV shows and films which Sega sold on VHS, like this one, which dates back to the 1940s, I.e. before "Sega" even existed.

I think the very first anime Sega was involved in was Zillion... but it doesn't look as if Sega is mentioned at all in any recent DVD release of this show, so I'm not sure how integral they were aside from producing merchandise and having Opa-Opa in there.

[ICEknight]

Black Squirrel, on 01 March 2015 - 10:38 AM, said:

I think the very first anime Sega was involved in was Zillion... but it doesn't look as if Sega is mentioned at all in any recent DVD release of this show, so I'm not sure how integral they were aside from producing merchandise and having Opa-Opa in there.

Didn't the anime change the Zillion gun design halfway through, so it didn't resemble SEGA's light gun anymore? Things might have gone wrong, somewhere in the production.



I loved the Zillion toy gun when I was a kid. Ah, the memories...

This post has been edited by ICEknight: 01 March 2015 - 07:00 PM