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Anyone play Sonic Rebirth? It's no longer on PowerSonic...

#31 User is offline FlashTHD 

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QUOTE (Trunks @ Mar 11 2010, 02:03 PM)
The game looked fucking gorgeous, and wasn't finished. You people expect too much.

I believe not because they advertised it, more or less, as finished.

Nitpicking block alignment is pushing it but it's telling to me that they trumped this game up quite a bit and at the first sign of rebuke they yanked the thing.
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#32 User is offline FeliciaVal 

Posted 11 March 2010 - 02:42 PM

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QUOTE (Trunks @ Mar 11 2010, 02:03 PM)
I know I'm late to the thread, but no wonder the creators dropped it, you're all a bunch of nit-picking assholes. Seriously, to tear it down to shreds to the tile placement, I'd want to quit too.

The game looked fucking gorgeous, and wasn't finished. You people expect too much.

I totally agree with you >_<

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I really like this game. Marble zone music sounds amazing, classic with a modern twist. The effects are brilliant like when you hit a badnik and it sounds like a car crusher. I can't believe that there isnt a home for this game anymore. It's one of the best sonic 2 remakes I have seen thumbsup.png

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Being able to take criticism is part of making games. If you don't want criticism, then you will never improve. Did I nitpick Sonic Rebirth? Probably. But anything worth doing is worth doing right, and if you can't take the heat... well, you know the rest.

Yes, the game was nice looking. But do I want to play a nice looking port of Sonic 1 that sacrifices accuracy in control, physics, and level design? Graphics don't matter that much to me. I could just play the real Sonic 1 and I'd probably have more fun.

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QUOTE (Corner-Face-Jacks @ Mar 11 2010, 04:49 PM)
I really like this game. Marble zone music sounds amazing, classic with a modern twist. The effects are brilliant like when you hit a badnik and it sounds like a car crusher. I can't believe that there isnt a home for this game anymore. It's one of the best sonic 2 remakes I have seen thumbsup.png

I can't begin to tell you how many things are wrong with this sentence.

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I know I'm late to the thread, but no wonder the creators dropped it, you're all a bunch of nit-picking assholes. Seriously, to tear it down to shreds to the tile placement, I'd want to quit too.

The game looked fucking gorgeous, and wasn't finished. You people expect too much.


Looked pretty finished to me. If they were cooperative I'd let them use Classics Sonic 1 Mode as a base.

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If I remember correctly from SFGHQ, the creator of Sonic Rebirth (forgot his name) was going to fix up the physics and if I'm right, add Knuckles into the game (I could be wrong there), but after that, I haven't heard anything else...

I even checked his YouTube account. His name is gabrielferrierabar. The last time he logged in was 3 months ago, so it could be a simple sign of inactivity. ...Well, maybe.
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QUOTE (Hez @ Mar 11 2010, 09:50 PM)
Looked pretty finished to me.

It wasn't finished. Read:

QUOTE (D.A. Garden @ Feb 5 2010, 06:00 PM)
I dunno about the new version that was supposed to be released, that might show up at the next SAGE, but here's the old one for anyone who wants it, courtesy of a friend of mine.
http://85.195.15.84/SonicRebirth_Full_Version.rar


QUOTE (Hez @ Mar 11 2010, 09:50 PM)
If they were cooperative I'd let them use Classics Sonic 1 Mode as a base.

Hez, Classic Sonic is well and fine and all, but it is not the end-all be-all sonic fangame. Every single post you've made in this thread mentions Classic Sonic. We get it, you love your work, but stop trying to hog the spotlight. Imagine if Tweaker stopped in every hack thread and said "Y'know this is alright, and I'mma let you finish, but my Sonic Megamix is the best romhack of all time."

We don't need that kind of feedback.

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I believe the creator initially said that build of Sonic Rebirth was "completed" but two or three days later admitted it wasn't as polished as he would have liked and pulled it.

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QUOTE (BlazeHedgehog @ Mar 11 2010, 08:21 PM)
I believe the creator initially said that build of Sonic Rebirth was "completed" but two or three days later admitted it wasn't as polished as he would have liked and pulled it.


You are correct. Heck, even this video right here explicitly says in the description that the full version would be at SAGE, which it was.

Afterwords, in the SFGHQ forums, the creator admitted to the game being rushed for SAGE and that he "wanted to make everything right". The download link was then pulled due to personal dissatisfaction with the then-released build and he started working on some fixes and features, which he reported in the thread up until mid-November.

The abrupt stop to these updates seems to suggest something coming up in his personal life rather than simply folding under complaints. After all, he seemed pretty confident with the progress being made up to that point.
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#40 User is offline Chimpo 

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QUOTE (Trunks @ Mar 11 2010, 11:03 AM)
The game looked fucking gorgeous, and wasn't finished. You people expect too much.


It was advertised as the complete version before the release. He backed away from that statement after the negative feedback. I wouldn't go as far as tile placement as being a major flaw in the game, but the game played pretty horrible.

It might have looked pretty but it certainly didn't play well enough to keep most people playing past GHZ.

The creator should have focused his efforts on making an original game with his talents rather than trying to do a remake of a game where people will already have certain expectations. You can't expect the audience to suddenly lower their expectations on what a remake should be just because the developer isn't capable of making a game play like the one he's remaking. If he can't accomplish the task of making sure the game plays as close as possible to the original, then he shouldn't be remaking it in the first place.

#41 User is offline Granville 

Posted 12 March 2010 - 04:04 PM

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I don't think people would have given the game any slack even if it were an original game though. The problem everyone had was with the physics. That would still have been a problem with an original Sonic game too.

Shame he quit, it had potential. I'll still stand by that statement. The graphics were gorgeous though, whoever designed those should go into being an artist for 2D games or whatever.

#42 User is offline Chimpo 

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QUOTE (Granville @ Mar 12 2010, 01:04 PM)
I don't think people would have given the game any slack even if it were an original game though.


Of course nobody would have a problem because nobody would have the set expectations of how a Sonic game should play.

#43 User is offline Granville 

Posted 12 March 2010 - 07:28 PM

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QUOTE (Chimpo @ Mar 12 2010, 04:26 PM)
QUOTE (Granville @ Mar 12 2010, 01:04 PM)
I don't think people would have given the game any slack even if it were an original game though.


Of course nobody would have a problem because nobody would have the set expectations of how a Sonic game should play.

Yes they would. They expect it to play like the classics in most fangames. Right now in fact, Sonic 4 is being torn apart before it has even come out for not being anything like the classics. People expect Sonic games to play exactly like the original Genesis games, regardless of what they are. This is a complaint in ALL games with Sonic nowadays. If it doesn't feel EXACTLY like the originals, they give it hate out the wazoo.

#44 User is offline Chimpo 

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I'm referring to a completely original game, not a game based on an existing property.

"Original Game" never refers to a fan game.

#45 User is offline Granville 

Posted 12 March 2010 - 09:33 PM

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Ah I see, thought you meant an original sonic fan game. My bad. Yeah, he should have started with something simpler indeed.

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