[nineko]

Maybe the occasional intermission with text à la Sonic 3D can work. But there should be as few as possible.

[Adamis]

Fake emerald: same sprite as the real, but colours tond down/more gray?

For the Sonic-Tails scene: Sonic can give him a pat on the back, do a thumbs up and run away.

[Thundertimi]

Story is too complicated...

Think about Sonic 1,2,cd,3 And S&K.

I would forget amy in this project.
I hate her, but that's not main reason.
She is useless and make things even more complicated.
Things would roll much faster, if we forget useless stuff like that.

(Im alcoholic and artist, which is usually same thing. We are always right! :P)

Sorry amy fans. I never played any new sonic game, expect sonic heroes (Got bored in 1 hour)
That game really made me hate next generation sonic games.

This post has been edited by Thundertimi: 07 February 2009 - 08:30 PM

[Tweaker]

Thundertimi, on Feb 7 2009, 08:27 PM, said:

Story is too complicated...

Except not.

You know, you seriously irritate me when you always come into topics with the most basic, invalid reasoning you could possibly think of to try and justify why you think certain things should be done how you think. Unfortunately for you, that isn't going to fly anymore—Chimpo's got the reigns, and this whole story is his idea. Good luck shooting that down.

With that said, the story isn't terribly complicated at all—at least not any more than Sonic 3 & Knuckles was. Sonic and Knuckles had different starting point in Sonic & Knuckles that eventually intertwined and split at various points in the game in a very similar manner; why is it somehow invalid to do it again? I'm confused here.

[Chimpo]

Kamon62, on Feb 7 2009, 03:52 PM, said:

I love this idea very much. But how are we going to show what's happening on-screen. This storyline is a lot more detailed than traditional Sonic storylines. I think it can't be explained in-game using the sprite cutscenes. So how else can you show stuff like the emerald and fake emerald without words. Without something to point out that there is a counterfiet emerald it will be confusing. Any ideas? Maybe we can use story boards like the end of Sonic 2.

Already discussed.

Fake Emerald won't be as bright as the real one and won't have the glow around it. On top of that, the fake emerald is also a robot!

Brilliant!

And these can all be easily done through sprites. I made the entire thing to be told in a way that it can be done with simple shit like in Sonic 3&K.

Thundertimi, on Feb 7 2009, 05:27 PM, said:

Story is too complicated...

Think about Sonic 1,2,cd,3 And S&K.

Let me dumb it down for you.

Robotnik and his cronies have tricked Knuckles, kidnapped Amy, and has stolen Angel Island to build his empire!

Can Sonic and friends rescue Amy and save Angel Island?!

This post has been edited by Chimpo: 07 February 2009 - 09:52 PM

[Thundertimi]

Well, okay then. I was wrong about story.

But I just can't stand amy thing.
Even she was in sonic CD, I still don't like her.
It still feel so "Next generation"

That's just my opinion.
Do I have to write that in every post I make? Did I say "If I say something, we need to do so."
Stop complaining about it.

(I fix typos in morning, because im too drunk right now, but I mean every word, what I say)

[Vaiyt]

My suggestion can be done entirely with gesture, no need for anyone to speak.

Quote

Angel Island has been kidnapped by robots!

Is Sonic a bad enough dude to save Angel Island?

There, I've made it even better

[jman2050]

Tweaker, on Feb 7 2009, 08:36 PM, said:

Thundertimi, on Feb 7 2009, 08:27 PM, said:

Story is too complicated...

With that said, the story isn't terribly complicated at all—at least not any more than Sonic 3 & Knuckles was. Sonic and Knuckles had different starting point in Sonic & Knuckles that eventually intertwined and split at various points in the game in a very similar manner; why is it somehow invalid to do it again? I'm confused here.

Well, technically, Knuckles story takes place after Sonic is already gone, as evidenced by the lack of visible water in Angel Island and the whole fact that the island is even in the sky, but your point stands :P

[Chimpo]

Thundertimi, on Feb 7 2009, 07:11 PM, said:

That's just my opinion.

I think your opinion is completely baseless and stupid and I don't like it.

Vaiyt, on Feb 7 2009, 07:13 PM, said:

My suggestion can be done entirely with gesture, no need for anyone to speak.

Quote

Angel Island has been kidnapped by robots!

Is Sonic a bad enough dude to save Angel Island?

There, I've made it even better

FUND IT!

This post has been edited by Chimpo: 07 February 2009 - 10:32 PM

[Chimpo]

[Veemon]

Thundertimi, on Feb 7 2009, 08:27 PM, said:

She is useless and make things even more complicated.

She's kidnapped by Nack. How the FUCK is that too complicated to portray in a Genesis-style game. If I recall properly, there's a franchise rather similar to Sonic where every story involved a pink female getting kidnapped, and I think they're doing pretty alright.

Adamis, on Feb 7 2009, 07:39 PM, said:

For the Sonic-Tails scene: Sonic can give him a pat on the back, do a thumbs up and run away.

I was thinking more along the lines of...Nack's left with the Master Emerald, Knuckles chases off after him, and Robotnik's getting away. Sonic and Tails start running after, when a noise comes from offscreen to the left. Pan to reveal Metal Sonic setting a bomb or powering up on the Chaos Emeralds, or some other generally "Oh shit!" moment. Sonic turns to run after Robotnik and Tails' eyes go wide (can we do that with sprites?). Sonic nods, smiles if we can do that, and runs off. Tails closes his eyes, nods, opens them, cue boss fight.

I really like choreography.

This post has been edited by Veemon: 08 February 2009 - 12:55 AM

[Thundertimi]

Sorry about that. I was drunk.

I already accepted, that story isn't complicated, when chimpo made it clear.
Let's forget my 2 previous posts.

[Dr. Mustache]

Thundertimi, on Feb 8 2009, 10:08 AM, said:

Sorry about that. I was drunk.

Then don't post drunk in future, you're ruining everyone's good time.

[Kamon62]

Chimpo, on Feb 8 2009, 01:49 PM, said:

Kamon62, on Feb 7 2009, 03:52 PM, said:

I love this idea very much. But how are we going to show what's happening on-screen. This storyline is a lot more detailed than traditional Sonic storylines. I think it can't be explained in-game using the sprite cutscenes. So how else can you show stuff like the emerald and fake emerald without words. Without something to point out that there is a counterfiet emerald it will be confusing. Any ideas? Maybe we can use story boards like the end of Sonic 2.

Already discussed.

Fake Emerald won't be as bright as the real one and won't have the glow around it. On top of that, the fake emerald is also a robot!

Brilliant!

And these can all be easily done through sprites. I made the entire thing to be told in a way that it can be done with simple shit like in Sonic 3&K.

Thundertimi, on Feb 7 2009, 05:27 PM, said:

Story is too complicated...

Think about Sonic 1,2,cd,3 And S&K.

Let me dumb it down for you.


Robotnik and his cronies have tricked Knuckles, kidnapped Amy, and has stolen Angel Island to build his empire!

Can Sonic and friends rescue Amy and save Angel Island?!

The fake emerald is also a robot! The logic is undeniable...You ARE a genius! :p
But in all seriousness that's good. The difference should be pretty obvious now.

This post has been edited by Kamon62: 08 February 2009 - 08:50 AM

[Phoenix]