[Black Squirrel]

To be fair back in July when I made that set I wasn't going for an original look. I was kinda going for an "enhanced" look - so people would instantly know it was a Sonic tileset and not something completely different. I can assure you nothing's taken directly from another game though.

Rika's stuff is probably a better choice, but it still needs a bit of editing so that it doesn't make this game look like Sonic 2 Advanced Edit 2. But even then a quick palette change would probably fix that.

[PC2]

People, please calm down. Remember that everyone has a different idea of what this game should be. I propose a hybrid of some sort between the two backgrounds:

Not exactly the sexiest example, but just throwing it out there as a concept. Feel free to expand upon this in some way, shape, or form.

This post has been edited by PC2: 10 November 2008 - 04:49 PM

[Matwek]

[muteKi]

That's not quite what I had in mind but I agree that somewhere between the two would be ideal -- the only real issue that I have with Rika's art is, again, that the texture is too simple. I don't have anything against the art in Mushroom Hill either, but it's a bit simple for a project that I feel is supposed to expand on Sonic 3 / Sonic & Knuckles. That new art that you've made appears non-uniform.


Consider for example, Chaotix, arguably the next game in the series.


It's using a lot of different colors and patterns for those floor tiles. Their less uniform design and occasional checkered patterns actually remind me much of Sonic 2's first level.


Because more of the color and graphics space has to be used for enemies and other objects, the ground is monochromatic, but the patterns are more complex and nonuniform than the ones proposed here.

[PC2]

[CyclopsCaveman]

I never suggested it absolutely had to be an overgrown rain forest. It could always be split into two separate branches, one branch from the dock act that leads to two beach acts (and then two different routes that lead to two different paths through zone two, going back to the catwalks idea I had) and another one that leads directly to land and skips over the beach, giving two acts of whatever kind of grassy/plainy/foresty area we decide on to use, but leads to two different paths in the second zone, but the top path is the same as the bottom path from the beach, and the bottom path has Sonic going under the Carnival, and maybe we could have the top two levels of the Carnival separate from the bottom, so that you take the bottom path and you can later fight bosses in different arenas than at the top or bottom of the carnival, and each boss leads into a different path, and branches off into different zone designs for top, middle, and bottom paths, and if you take all bottom paths, or take the bottom path in act 3, you go into the sewers.

This post has been edited by CyclopsCaveman: 10 November 2008 - 04:57 PM

[synchronizer]

I don't think bosses should be rehashed. To keep things fresh, new bosses should be created for each zone, therefore giving the player a reason to play the game again and again.

[Tweaker]

[CyclopsCaveman]

I'm not saying 'rehash bosses'. If that's what it seemed like when I was talking about fighting bosses in different arenas, I meant zone-specific bosses. Sorry if I came off on the wrong tangent there about bosses.

[Matwek]

[SoNick]

I'm really liking the grass of the composited image, but the ground tiles could use some work; to expand on what Matwek said, they really look more like Columns jewels randomly stuck into dirt than actual ground pieces.
Perhaps you could either make the darker bits look less recessed or make the parts sticking stick out less?

[Mad Echidna]

Since we are apparently talking about aesthetic here,



I can honestly say that this is the first mockup I've seen that is worthy of a Sonic sequel. Rika's stuff is very cool, but it just seems to monochromatic. This new style is PERFECT

[DimensionWarped]

[Polygon Jim]

[DimensionWarped]

Honestly, I think that if the original team had made a sequel following Sonic and Knuckles, they probably wouldn't have done another Green Hill Zone. It would have been another somewhat similar concept but radicalized in the same fashion as Angel Island or Mushroom Hill. Simple of course, but far less so than EHZ/GHZ.

For that reason, I think the original set is more fitting than a bunch of GHZ touchups.

This post has been edited by DimensionWarped: 10 November 2008 - 11:49 PM