[Tweaker]

Okay, I think I have an idea.

Tina does wiki shit, Sheena does forum shit.

y/n?

[FraGag]

Based on the general feedback so far, I think that's the way to go, even though I'm fine with Sheena myself. I vote yes.

[muteKi]

I support it as well.

[Metal Man88]

I would say yes to that.

[Overlord]

yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Sazpaimon]

Or I can make it so Sheena announces wiki edits to everyone who joins #retro, which can be turned off simply by logging in.

[Tweaker]

...that could work!

I'm all for that.

[Upthorn]

Sazpaimon, on Aug 20 2008, 05:24 PM, said:

Or I can make it so Sheena announces wiki edits to everyone who joins #retro, which can be turned off simply by logging in.

There's still the problem with /notice since it causes a beep by default on some popular IRC clients, shows up in the status window if they aren't looking at any channel on badnik, and generally annoys some people no matter what.

Additionally, people are always annoyed by opt-out stuff. Which is probably part of why everyone complained about _Tina_ even though they could just /ignore it and have no problem... if you make sheena opt-out, but you have to register and login in order to do so... yeah, I see some kinks in this plan.

[Tweaker]

The idea is to imply the updates on people. Those who don't wish to see them should use their own means to ignore it. We've simply provided a more meaningful solution than /ignore (which I think would even work in this case).

[Upthorn]

Well, if you're going to be messaging everyone in the channel except for people who ignore it...

why not just bring the old one back? It did the same thing, but in a less annoying way.

[Sazpaimon]

Because people that still wish to use the service for the forum can still take advantage of it. If you want nothing to do with the bot you can ignore it outright.

[Tweaker]

Upthorn, on Aug 20 2008, 09:33 PM, said:

Well, if you're going to be messaging everyone in the channel except for people who ignore it...

why not just bring the old one back? It did the same thing, but in a less annoying way.

Because Sheena offers more benefits than that, including (but not limited to):

1. The ability to choose what gets reported to you personally
2. Extended whois information
3. Slightly less fucked title reports
4. Not interfering with the channel text itself

Among other things, I imagine, that I can't think of at the moment...

[Xkeeper]

Tweaker, on Aug 20 2008, 05:40 PM, said:

3. Slightly less fucked title reports

That is something I would've, you know, fixed, if it wasn't immediately rejected. There's no point in fixing something if it won't get used.

Then again, now that #reporting has a good number of people, maybe I'll fix it.

[Scarred Sun]

I know when we had originally discussed the idea of BetaServ, the idea was that it would move more in the direction of Scarlet—that is, usurp the nick.db for forum-based authentication. I really think a lot of the issue could be solved simply by removing NickServ and making auth the command for nick identification. Moreover, that way, we could assign permissions based on groups rather than having to manually set them for people who don't have registered nicks.

[Sazpaimon]

Didn't see this:

Upthorn, on Aug 20 2008, 06:30 PM, said:

Sazpaimon, on Aug 20 2008, 05:24 PM, said:

Or I can make it so Sheena announces wiki edits to everyone who joins #retro, which can be turned off simply by logging in.

There's still the problem with /notice since it causes a beep by default on some popular IRC clients, shows up in the status window if they aren't looking at any channel on badnik, and generally annoys some people no matter what.

I wasn't aware that mIRC still beeps on /notice. Yeah that's annoying, and I can make it an option to change it to a PRIVMSG if that's preferred.