[Hybrid Project Alpha]

I prefer Robotnik, but I refer to him as Eggman because that's what they're calling him nowadays

[Dark Sonic]

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=jypZB2IFzkE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1yneJSJx3E...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fLFnBFvU4w...feature=related

Seems to be a trend.

[Hybrid Project Alpha]

man that last one is awesome haha

[Tweaker]

What is with you guys trying to say that when Eggman was known as "Robotnik" that he was a more serious villain? Eggman was as goofy as can be in the earlier games, despite whatever threatening schemes he came up with. How about that cartoonish look on his face when he runs? How about that stupid look on his face when he gets hit? How about the fact that whenever Sonic kicks the shit out of Eggman he never breaks a sweat and fucks with him hardcore?

Eggman was never a villain to be taken seriously—that's why he was called Eggman. The first time he was called Dr. Eggman in the states is when he was associated with perhaps being a serious villain, and that's where it sort of broke the trend. Eggman was always a goof, and never actually posed a serious threat at any point in time—at least not with Sonic around.

[Skywatcher]

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By 16 Bit player, I assume you mean one that never saw Wing Fortress, then?

In Sonic 2? That's 16-bit...

[P.P.A.]

ICEknight, on Jul 11 2008, 05:31 PM, said:

Robotonik. =P

*Robotonic

Also I forgot to mention my choice was also partly due to the fact that I grew up with "Robotnik". That walrus-looking man with the checkered ball was Dr. Robotnik.

[theSTHguy]

Skywatcher, on Jul 11 2008, 05:52 PM, said:

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By 16 Bit player, I assume you mean one that never saw Wing Fortress, then?

In Sonic 2? That's 16-bit...

No, no, no, no.

You clearly misunderstood. What FinalBeyond means is that EGGMAN is written on the side of the Wing Fortress. Observe: Clicky!

NOTE: Link to the pic doesn't work. Click link and scroll down to the Wing Fortress pic. (Sonic 2. 3rd Row. 2nd from left.)

[Phos]

Tweaker, on Jul 11 2008, 11:50 AM, said:

What is with you guys trying to say that when Eggman was known as "Robotnik" that he was a more serious villain? Eggman was as goofy as can be in the earlier games, despite whatever threatening schemes he came up with. How about that cartoonish look on his face when he runs? How about that stupid look on his face when he gets hit? How about the fact that whenever Sonic kicks the shit out of Eggman he never breaks a sweat and fucks with him hardcore?

Eggman was never a villain to be taken seriously—that's why he was called Eggman. The first time he was called Dr. Eggman in the states is when he was associated with perhaps being a serious villain, and that's where it sort of broke the trend. Eggman was always a goof, and never actually posed a serious threat at any point in time—at least not with Sonic around.

This. I fail to see how anyone can call someone who's brilliant plan to destroy their enemy is to shield themselves with air bubbles a "serious villain" Ganondorf Is a good example of a serious villain. Ganondorf has possessed Zelda and used her to attempt to kill Link because he's just that evil, stolen the most powerful part of the most powerful artifact and used it to become the king of evil, and shrugged of being impaled through the chest. meanwhile, Eggman builds a sorta giant robot that has bumpers where you would expect there to be weapons.

Also, some epic lulz on this page:

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18. Creativity: Sonic 3 & Knuckles shows that in a straight up chase, Sonic still can't catch Eggman. Give me a short answer essay (250 words suggested maximum) explaining how Eggman can run as fast as Sonic. Entries judged on overall creativity; humor optional. || Points: 5-4-3

here

[Skywatcher]

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No, no, no, no.

You clearly misunderstood. What FinalBeyond means is that EGGMAN is written on the side of the Wing Fortress.

Ahh right. Well I'm fine with that; it's only a piece of background art, afterall. I mean, he's even referred to as Dr. Robotnik in the European game manuals. I'm fine with Eggman being a nickname, but I don't like the idea of it being 'phased in' to replace Robotnik.

[FinalBeyond]

It wasn't phased in to replace Robotnik. Sega were just correcting the bizarre localisation that occured in the manuals. Wing Fortress shows that in the games themselves, Eggman was the name he chose.

[darkspir]

Honestly, I just prefer the name Robotnik. You can't say things like "roBUTTnik" with the name Eggman.

[Skywatcher]

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Sega were just correcting the bizarre localisation that occured in the manuals.

Which would lead us to ask why they bothered having different names for the same guy in the first place...

[nineko]

Skywatcher, on Jul 11 2008, 08:15 PM, said:

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Sega were just correcting the bizarre localisation that occured in the manuals.

Which would lead us to ask why they bothered having different names for the same guy in the first place...

Hello Street Fighters II

edit: I obviously refer to the Vega/Bison/Balrog faggotry

[Phos]

Eggman comes from a Beatles song, from my understanding, there were afraid of a lawsuit.

[MoI]

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What is with you guys trying to say that when Eggman was known as "Robotnik" that he was a more serious villain? Eggman was as goofy as can be in the earlier games, despite whatever threatening schemes he came up with. How about that cartoonish look on his face when he runs? How about that stupid look on his face when he gets hit? How about the fact that whenever Sonic kicks the shit out of Eggman he never breaks a sweat and fucks with him hardcore?

What about enslaving defenceless animals, trying to kill Sonic in very brutal ways (Spring Yard Zone, Final Zone) or turning a planet into a metallic wasteland? I agree there are some strong elements of goofiness in Eggman, but I don't think its fair not to call him a serious villain. Perhaps its a matter of opinion but I felt Eggman was perhaps he's most serious at Sonic 1/CD, I'm basing this on theme music, weapons and general 'feel.'