[Vangar]

Edited by Vincent

In order to keep track of all the concept art and mockups that the project has received, I would like to ask all members to post them in this thread from now on.

-All concepts will be stored on the database under the "ConceptThread" section:

http://sanik.hacking-cult.org/inker/entity...y=ConceptThread


The following are some of the most noticeable ones we have received so far:

EHZ 3d Background by SANiK


EHZ Grass by Blue Streak


HTZ by StereoTypicalPickle


EHZ Preliminary mockup by m_virtua


EHZ Hills by m_virtua


EHZ Hills and clouds (without flowers) by m_virtua


EHZ Clouds by ICEknight


EHZ Clouds & Water by BlazeHedgehog


EHZ Chunk by Trunks, Neo, and uk_resistant


EHZ Animated Flower by ICEknight and Hitaxas


MZ by StereoTypicalPickle


End Concept by Toot Toot Sonic Warrior
http://sanik.hacking-cult.org/inker/data/1...onicwarrior.flv

End Concept by Tokumaru
http://sanik.hacking-cult.org/inker/data/1...tbyTokumaru.swf


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EDITED BY VINCENT






Slightly less gay, but yeah. As I said, certainly nothing that would be in any release of a real build.

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This post has been edited by Athelstone: 06 September 2008 - 10:49 AM

[Neo]

Good god that looks horrible. If I were you I'd learn a thing or two about graphic design before attempting to draw all the graphics in a game from scratch. Paintbrush tool is not good.

[Yuski]

The best way to do HD sprites is to remake them from the scratch. Of couse, you can use the old sprites to have a base of the moviment (like Street Fighter II Turbo HD for XBOX360), but you need to redraw them, or else, the art will be pure shit.

What you need to do is something like this:



But of course, with more details and shades, I did this in five minutes, rushed a lot=P

This post has been edited by Yuski: 13 March 2008 - 12:56 PM

[Bit-Blade]

It looks like you're just using the smudge tool in photoshop. Yuski's method is what popped into my head when I saw the thread title. I've done similar things before:


Original PSIV 'centaur' enemy

Blown up Samus edit

3x original size

This final one I'd started to mess around with the upper torso, but from the waist down its just a more detailed Centaur. Smoothing out pixel-blocks can be a painful process, I grant you, but the end results can be quite pleasing. I'm sure you can get the hang of it too.

This post has been edited by Bit-Blade: 13 March 2008 - 01:11 PM

[ICEknight]

[Hivebrain]

Smudging the old graphics just looks awful. They definitely need redrawing from scratch. I don't think it's entirely necessary to keep the original colours though, or it might end up looking a bit like that ugly hq2x filter.

[ICEknight]

Well, I just tried to keep the original style, not adding any original stuff on my part (not even outlines, which really put a different feel to the graphics).
All these games have their own style in graphics already, some showing Tails with a bigger head than usual, others using a Sonic with bigger eyes like in this case, and I think all these things should be retained for a hypothetical HD version of each.

I mean, some people might like the Triple Trouble Sonic over Sonic Chaos' because of the subtle diferences in his head, just like some people like Sonic 3's CG model over Sonic 2's. I don't think it would feel right to make all those different Sonics look identical in their respective games...

This post has been edited by ICEknight: 13 March 2008 - 02:36 PM

[87th]

ICEknight, on Mar 13 2008, 07:30 PM, said:

I don't think it would feel right to make all those different Sonics look identical in their respective games...

Maybe I'm assuming too much, but I think you're the only one who gives a shit. As long as it looks good and fits with the art style of the rest of the game, we're happy.

[Vangar]

87th, on Mar 14 2008, 07:16 AM, said:

ICEknight, on Mar 13 2008, 07:30 PM, said:

I don't think it would feel right to make all those different Sonics look identical in their respective games...

Maybe I'm assuming too much, but I think you're the only one who gives a shit. As long as it looks good and fits with the art style of the rest of the game, we're happy.

Actually, not really. Each game's sonic fits the game, or at least fits because we know that's how it was meant to be. That was the idea of those 'blurry' versions of the sprites, I wanted them to look a lot like their original versions, just higher resolution. But yeah, im not very happy with the monkey either.

Neo, on Mar 14 2008, 02:41 AM, said:

Good god that looks horrible. If I were you I'd learn a thing or two about graphic design before attempting to draw all the graphics in a game from scratch. Paintbrush tool is not good.

It wasn't paintbrush, it was a few tools from Corel Painter X.

This post has been edited by Vangar: 13 March 2008 - 04:48 PM

[Sik]

Er, I don't think it'll be needed to redraw stuff from scratch completely ignoring the old graphics... I would scale them up, and then take them as a base for the new graphics. And the problem here is that you're doing quick works. Unless somebody really puts effort in it, we won't see any good graphics.

[ICEknight]

Sik the hedgehog, on Mar 13 2008, 04:57 PM, said:

Er, I don't think it'll be needed to redraw stuff from scratch completely ignoring the old graphics... I would scale them up, and then take them as a base for the new graphics.

Speaking of this, how many times do you need to upscale an old MegaDrive sprite to make it HD?

x2? x4?

[Sik]

Depending on the final resolution. I would say 2x but most people here seems to hate 640x480 :/

[Neo]

Vangar, on Mar 13 2008, 09:42 PM, said:

It wasn't paintbrush, it was a few tools from Corel Painter X.

When I said paintbrush tool, I really meant any tool other than pencil, eraser and fill. If you want good looking, accurate hi-definition graphics, you're going to have to edit these pixel by pixel, not just use prefabs and lots of pretty anti-aliasing.

[Vangar]

Which comes to my point before, 4x or larger sprites edited pixel by pixel is madness, and I wouldnt think that would be necissary.

[ICEknight]

The things one does out of boredom...

This Sonic was first made at 4x with the original colors, then shrunk to 2x (which makes it look better than plain 4x). Resizing it back to normal 1x size makes it look almost exactly the same as the original.

This post has been edited by ICEknight: 13 March 2008 - 06:36 PM