Hello everyone. And I noticed something intriguing about Casino Night song from Sonic 2's "Simon Wai" prototype. While I was looking into the sonic retro wiki, i found this page with sonic 2 beta music: http://info.sonicretro.org/S2Beta:Music I wanted to analyze each channel... But I noticed that Casino Night has a one note difference from the downloadable ROM, in the bass sequence after the loop Here's the Casino Night song from Sonic 2 Simon Wai: https://www.dropbox.com/s/waq8ak6et18si9a/S2Beta%20Casino%20Night.mp3?dl=1 And to compare, here's a mp3 rip from the vgm: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8z3butulg788bnb/S2Beta%20Casino%20Night%20VGM.mp3?dl=1 If you pay attention, after it loops, just before the lead starts again, there's a D3 G1 sequence in the VGM, but on the ROM, it does a D2 G1. Could it be a bug from the rip? or rather a dump in a weird state or something? Like (although I don't fully agree), it is believed by some that the SEGA screen is skipped because pirates hacked the ROM or something...
I believe that VGMs are trimmed and looped by hand, and thus shouldn't be used for research. I'm kind of surprised that nobody has attempted to make a plugin for the true music rips, so that Mega Drive and SMS/GG VGMs can be put to rest once and for all.
What do you mean? The wiki would just have a different link to the real ROM rips instead of the VGMs.
That would be a lot better. I know one exists for the GEMS type drivers but nobody has ever tried to make one for the SMPS type drivers and that is pathetic.
That's not the same as a plugin. That's just swapping a zip. You could do that right now. Playback through the wiki itself, which would be 43294032 times more useful, would require someone who can write a Mediawiki extension. Someone who is also really knowledgeable in how the Mega Drive (and other systems?) handle audio. I'm not confident there's much overlap betwen the two.
I can confirm that the VGM is trimmed incorrectly. The "loop start" point is 2 samples too late and so it misses the command that sets the octave properly.
I'd like to kindly mention that yall removed the pages with music downloads at least a few years ago too, so it seems like no one would have any place to put them
I'm no web developer, but I imagine some of the work can be skipped by compiling parts of SMPSPlay with Emscripten. Then you don't have to worry about the SMPS/console emulation, and can just move onto writing the plugin itself.
This was a combination of "MP3s are a really bad idea", "the player is broken" and "the whole page kinda sucks". But I'm all for someone writing a nice, clean, versitile music player for Mediawiki, along with a set of tracks that are just a few kilobytes each. But you'll have to pardon my scepticism - it's a really, really big ask.
