Sonic 2 HD

Lanzer · Apr 10, 2012

Wait its getting to the gaming blogs already?!

...Yeah this is worrying now because this is going to leave a huge shit stain on not only this project but this community as well. the idiot masses are going to think were going around spreading key-loggers and whatnot in our fan-games/hacks and watching their activity when in reality its just some lunatic whose gone too far with a fan-game. Remember, idiots tend to lump in a whole group for 1 persons actions.

Maybe it is a good idea that the ties were cut with the community and this fangame.

TheGreen1 · Apr 10, 2012

Vinchenz said:

What the flying fucking fuck? That's incredibly bullshit. Why in the fucking world would you need a keylogger? TO SEE IF SOMEONE IS HACKING YOUR GAME IN REALTIME!?!?!? OH NOEZ MY CODDEEEZZ

Jesus fucking Christ...

Rockman Zero said:

Good grief. This is strike two. What's next? Was the keylogger programmed so you could take revenge on the Sonic Community? Or was it merely crappy programming?
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He was messing with the registry, which you CAN'T do by writing shitty code. He knew what he was doing in that situation.

I would NEVER want to get anywhere near the registry. A professional game shouldn't ever even need to mess with the registry, let alone a fan game!
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Would you put it past him? I mean, he made a fucking DRM system so his fangame can't get hacked.

Let me repeat that

DRM on a fangame so it CAN'T GET HACKED.
I'd be using wireshark on this shit.

Miles3298 · Apr 10, 2012

Is it bad if I laughed? I do say, this has gotten rather interesting. I wonder what the future holds for this project; that is, other than all this DRM and keylog mess. Hopefully it's a good one.

JaxTH · Apr 10, 2012

OKei said:

So this makes it two major Retro members falling from grace this year?
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People like LOst?

Icewarrior · Apr 10, 2012

"OMFG SONIC 2 HD IS BETAR THAN SONIC 4 : EPISOD 2, LOLZ SEGA!!11!1!!"

Yeah right....
Now if you excuse me, I'll delete this garbage of a fangame and wait for an official product that will not hide some DRM or other keyloggers.

Aerosol · Apr 10, 2012

Thank you, LOst. Thank you so very, very much. Maybe I'm exaggerating here. You know, overreacting a bit.

But it would seem to me that you've taken great steps to potentially tarnish Sonic Retro's entire reputation, putting future projects with ties to Retro (like the Mobius Engine) in jeopardy of being accused of including malicious code.

There isn't a single reason you needed the registry to operate the game. None. You, or someone else, is entirely welcome to educate me otherwise but I don't see the need at all. Some of us use our computers for sensitive operations, like online banking and the such.

You know what? Fuck you. I can't be arsed to be polite and pussyfoot around anymore. You fucked up.

OKei · Apr 10, 2012

JaxTH said:

OKei said:

So this makes it two major Retro members falling from grace this year?
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People like LOst?
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Yeeees, in terms of publicity I should say.

EDIT: And I should also mention that this invasive stunt has kind of perverted the game for me a little. I hope the rest of the team can confirm their dis-acknowledgement of this Keylogger if they never knew already.

Cooljerk · Apr 10, 2012

Remember how Lost wanted to disable the ability to take screenshots or record video of the game playing? Perhaps that's what the keylogger is for.

This is completely terrible, though. Way to destroy the rep of the project, lOst. What the fuck gives you the right to put something like this in the project? Are you thick? Do you not know how invasive that is?

SeanieB · Apr 10, 2012

TheGreen1 said:

I'd be using wireshark on this shit.
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I just tried this actually, nothing happened when I loaded the 32 bit version of the game up in a VM, but the 64 bit one refused to go off a black screen even though I'm using a 64 bit VM. The 32 bit version doesn't talk to the net (using wireshark in promiscuous mode on an external machine on the same LAN) Only traffic I saw was NOD32 sending data back to ESET.

It's not opening a socket either on launch, so it's not giving itself away that easily.

Spazzo · Apr 10, 2012

http://kotaku.com/5900549/sonic-2-hd-contains-keylogger-delete-immediately

Oh shit.

I guess that explains the obfuscation/DRM!

Shadic · Apr 10, 2012

Welp. This proves interesting.

Cooljerk · Apr 10, 2012

CesspoolofHatred said:

Yeah, um, I'd like to remind people that this keylogger shit is probably LOst's fault, and doesn't necessarily reflect the desires of the rest of the Sonic 2 HD team. While letting him essentially hold the project hostage for DRM was a HUGE mistake, they don't deserve to be lambasted for the irrational actions of one extremely paranoid man.

I sent Canned Karma a link to the article announcing the keylogger, and how to clean up the residues of Sonic 2 HD. His profile says he was on last night, so hopefully he'll come by and announce something soon.
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The sad unfortunate truth is that this project will likely never recover from this. If you think the general public will be able to consume the idea that this was the result of a single programmer and that no one else involved with the game had anything to do with it, you're assuming too much of the general population. Even if lost is removed from this project, people know SONIC 2 HD, not the programmer himself.

And you have to question at what point will sega step in and do something about this? Do you think the average kid knows that Sonic 2 HD isn't a product from sega themselves? I mean, Sonic IS Sega.

I'm so incredibly sad for this project. And completely pissed. Not just because of the invasion of privacy, but because lost didn't think enough of this community or the people working on this project to think for 5 minutes about what kind of harm he was doing not only to this game, but for Sonic Retro and Sega Hacking in general.

This is a really bad moment in our community history.

Sparks · Apr 10, 2012

The sadder thing is this might affect the public image of Sonic fan games in general. Just what we need with SAGE creeping around the corner this Summer.

Vaiyt · Apr 10, 2012

The guy wanted to keep people from TAKING SCREENSHOTS of the game.

F***ING

SCREENSHOTS

no rly

why

WHY

Thordammit, fangamers and hackers are even more anal about "their" stuff than the companies.

Spindash54 · Apr 10, 2012

And at this point it looks like years of legitimate persons' hard work and effort is being flushed right down the shitter.

Good job Lost.

Aerosol · Apr 10, 2012

Now that's not exactly true. Sonic 2 HD wasn't exactly meant to win the hearts and minds of the internet. It was a love letter to fans, by fans. We'll still play it, as long as we know LOst has nothing to do with it anymore. I'm just not too keen for the ridicule of communities like this to change from "insufferable, unpleasable brats" to "tryin' to steal yo megabitz"

Metal Man88 · Apr 10, 2012

Man, I can read the future. I deleted the whole EXE and everything shortly after playing it. Thing never even hit the registry.

I guess I was lucky.

Tithin · Apr 10, 2012

:golfclap:

Can't wait to get home and delete this.

Spindash54 · Apr 10, 2012

Kotaku fixed up the article, removing us as "the dev team" no typical UPDATE mark on it though. Just trying to make it like it was always like that.

Ravenfreak · Apr 10, 2012

Way to go LOst. You just fucked up the community you've been a part of for a very long time and crushed many fans' dreams. I honestly feel sorry for the rest of the Sonic 2 HD team, all their hard work is now going down the crapper. I'm glad I didn't get the chance to play this now, I don't have my own computer so that would have been horrible for either my fiancee or my roommate. Even if the team gets a new programmer, I dunno if they'd be able to bounce back from this shit... And now probably other communities will look down upon us. Fuck you LOst, why don't you get lost? :v: (Haha get it? Okay I'm done...)

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