Dust Hill tiles

RoboticParanoia · Mar 13, 2004

MilestheFox said:

Quick Man said:

MilestheFox said:

I never go believe Dust Hill is a name for a mine... I only can believe the american artirts are all retarded
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Then you're a turd. Thank you for the racist comment, Naka-san.
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I did not have racist intentions, but I think that the American artists would not make a better work that the Japanese artists, the original normally is better, also thinks that the Japanese would not make a better work in something originally American, sorry.

I am racist? Look your avatar!
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Are you one of those people that believe that the Japanese is the epitome of all creation and that anime is the best things you can watch on TV?

As for Quick Man's avatar...

Don't assume things...

GerbilSoft · Mar 13, 2004

Quick Man said:

Miles Nightfire said:

(Due to a bad dump or something)
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Nope, just that they weren't overwritten with anything else. And they were from the same ROM, different game.
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Not necessarily. Generally, when flashing a ROM cartridge, you have to erase it before reprogramming it. I think the leftover tiles are from an error in the compilation process of the Sonic 2 Alpha/Beta/whogivesashitwhatitscalled, and they accidentally included those tiles.

MilestheFox · Mar 13, 2004

GerbilSoft said:

Quick Man said:

Miles Nightfire said:

(Due to a bad dump or something)
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Nope, just that they weren't overwritten with anything else. And they were from the same ROM, different game.
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Not necessarily. Generally, when flashing a ROM cartridge, you have to erase it before reprogramming it. I think the leftover tiles are from an error in the compilation process of the Sonic 2 Alpha/Beta/whogivesashitwhatitscalled, and they accidentally included those tiles.
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But the Dust Hill screenshot is a mock-up for marketin, no real gameplay, they take the art from level, not from a cart, but probable from their computers(or what they use to make the art of a game), and put Sonic, crocobot, rings, etc...

LOst · Mar 13, 2004

MilestheFox said:

But the Dust Hill screenshot is a mock-up for marketin, no real gameplay, they take the art from level, not from a cart, but probable from their computers(or what they use to make the art of a game), and put Sonic, crocobot, rings, etc...
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They take the art from the game, how else whould they be able to make a screen shot of it?

MilestheFox · Mar 13, 2004

LOst said:

MilestheFox said:

But the Dust Hill screenshot is a mock-up for marketin, no real gameplay, they take the art from level, not from a cart, but probable from their computers(or what they use to make the art of a game), and put Sonic, crocobot, rings, etc...
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They take the art from the game, how else whould they be able to make a screen shot of it?
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"He was just dropped in for placement for the marketing folks. It was totally random and has nothing to do with any real gameplay."
I think they use a type of editor to make the mock-up.
I think the artists are not idiots to make this error, they put on magazines.

LOst · Mar 13, 2004

MilestheFox said:

I think they use a type of editor to make the mock-up.
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In your dreams :P
They used a special device that could only show 8x8 tiles at once. They had to put it into the game and take a screen shot of it to see the result.

MilestheFox · Mar 13, 2004

LOst said:

MilestheFox said:

I think they use a type of editor to make the mock-up.
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In your dreams :P
They used a special device that could only show 8x8 tiles at once. They had to put it into the game and take a screen shot of it to see the result.
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"He was just dropped in for placement for the marketing folks. It was totally random and has nothing to do with any real gameplay."
But she say it was totally random, I think they don't open the game, they take the graphics and make a moku-up based on the Dust Hill layout.

AeonicB · Mar 13, 2004

MilestheFox said:

GerbilSoft said:

Quick Man said:

Miles Nightfire said:

(Due to a bad dump or something)
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Nope, just that they weren't overwritten with anything else. And they were from the same ROM, different game.
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Not necessarily. Generally, when flashing a ROM cartridge, you have to erase it before reprogramming it. I think the leftover tiles are from an error in the compilation process of the Sonic 2 Alpha/Beta/whogivesashitwhatitscalled, and they accidentally included those tiles.
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But the Dust Hill screenshot is a mock-up for marketin, no real gameplay, they take the art from level, not from a cart, but probable from their computers(or what they use to make the art of a game), and put Sonic, crocobot, rings, etc...
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I meantioned that earlier.

Quick Man, your posts were completely uncalled for.

ICEknight · Mar 13, 2004

LOst said:

MilestheFox said:

But the Dust Hill screenshot is a mock-up for marketin, no real gameplay, they take the art from level, not from a cart, but probable from their computers(or what they use to make the art of a game), and put Sonic, crocobot, rings, etc...
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They take the art from the game, how else whould they be able to make a screen shot of it?
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I'm guessing the Digitizers had a function to just arrange the created graphics on screen to see how the level would look like, and make this kind of mockups.

I mean, you can do that even with MS Paint...

MilestheFox · Mar 13, 2004

ICEknight said:

LOst said:

MilestheFox said:

But the Dust Hill screenshot is a mock-up for marketin, no real gameplay, they take the art from level, not from a cart, but probable from their computers(or what they use to make the art of a game), and put Sonic, crocobot, rings, etc...
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They take the art from the game, how else whould they be able to make a screen shot of it?
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I'm guessing the Digitizers had a function to just arrange the created graphics on screen to see how the level would look like, and make this kind of mockups.

I mean, you can do that even with MS Paint...
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My theory: They have 10% of the completed levels in this alpha, likes Wood Zone, and they have to take screenshots for previews in magazines, SEGA tell they to take screenshots, they make moku-ups based on the tiles, enemies, rings and etc they have at the time.

ICEknight · Mar 13, 2004

Jeez... Will you please stop making up theories and start doing some research?

Fiz · Mar 13, 2004

MINDLESS THEORIES PLZ

...or would it be groundless theories? Hmm...choices, choices...

LOst · Mar 13, 2004

ICEknight said:

LOst said:

MilestheFox said:

But the Dust Hill screenshot is a mock-up for marketin, no real gameplay, they take the art from level, not from a cart, but probable from their computers(or what they use to make the art of a game), and put Sonic, crocobot, rings, etc...
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They take the art from the game, how else whould they be able to make a screen shot of it?
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I'm guessing the Digitizers had a function to just arrange the created graphics on screen to see how the level would look like, and make this kind of mockups.

I mean, you can do that even with MS Paint...
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That's up to Craig to answer :P

ICEknight · Mar 13, 2004

Heh, just what I was thinking.... *wink wink*

Quickman · Mar 13, 2004

I am racist? Look your avatar!
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My avatar is an in-joke amongst the Techies.

By the way, here's what I found on the beta S2B site:

This is the only picture of Dust Hill Zone, released by EGM. Many people believe itis a hoax because the off-centered Sonic, non-italicized fonts, Green-Hill-Zone clouds etc. But since the above Hidden Palace screenshot is real, this Dust Hill screenshot ispossibly real too. However, in the ROM when we choose Dust Hill Zone it loads the MysticCave Zone, why? Probably, the real Dust Hill Zone was replaced by Mystic Cave earlier, butthey didn't change the zone name yet. In the final version they changed it to Mystic Cave,because the zone really has absolutely nothing to do with dust or hill! Well, this is justmy guess, I might be wrong.
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The clouds thing isn't a new discovery at all! Amazing what you find in a beta.

ICEknight · Mar 14, 2004

Quick Man said:

I am racist? Look your avatar!
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My avatar is an in-joke amongst the Techies.
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Really? I think I missed it... :huh:

Quickman · Mar 14, 2004

Yah, you mised it.
GOD, ICEknight, you're SO out of the loop! :D

Mystical Ninja · Mar 14, 2004

I didn't get the joke, either.

Icy Guy · Mar 14, 2004

I missed it, too...

Keith Hemari · Mar 14, 2004

Hmm...

The clouds have been long known as being from Green Hill Zone...

as for the other part.. if you squint just right, it look kinda' like the LZ graphics.. however, since what we have are only magazine scans, we aren't likely to find any undistorted pictures.

not only that, but the 'DHZ' picture doesn't quite match up.. it almost looks as though there'd be more of a 'beak' ok the face, if you know what I mean... perhaps it's one of the shorter blocks, if anything.

I still go more with the idea that the picture is a mock-up of graphics that were, at least, intended for use in Sonic 2. Who knows though?

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