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Sonic Adventure prerelease photos

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  1. Nov 9, 2009 #1
    Dude

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    This image right here has the caption "This many people never appear onscreen in the final". In fact, that amount of people never occurred onscreen at all ingame. It's a prerendered image. You can tell by looking at the shadows - level objects are casting shadows (not possible in the adventure engine) and the people aren't casting the usual plane-mapped circle shadow, they're casting polygon shadows (also not capable in the adventure engine). The smooth polygon shading also doesn't match the adventure engine's.

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    This screenshot only shows me one thing, and that is that at one point during development, level models faded into existence once they reached the beginning of the draw distance zone - look at the long road path stemming from the side of the building in the upper left hand corner. Notice you can see the fencing for the sides of the path, but the actual road surface has faded out and then back in. My only reasoning for this feature being removed (as it visually is much more subtle and pleasing) is that it must have been too processor intensive to maintain a steady framerate. Not that sonic adventure had a a steady framerate to begin with.
     
  2. Nov 9, 2009 #2
    Skyler

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    A lot of subtle tidbits being noticed lately. Nice find! :v:

    Well, maybe not an actual find, but you know what I mean.
     
  3. Nov 9, 2009 #3
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    That first render might have something to do with rendering during the intro sequence. At least with the same engine used. - There are a lot of people walking around and they cast proper shadows in the intro.
     
  4. Nov 12, 2009 #4
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    What about the fact that Tails is in Speed Highway? :v:

    Edit: meant Sonic's Speed Highway.
     
  5. Nov 12, 2009 #5
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    Speed Highway's his final stage, so I don't see anything wrong with that. :psyduck:
     
  6. Nov 12, 2009 #6
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    Tails' last level is Speed Highway.

    EDIT: Beaten
     
  7. Nov 12, 2009 #7
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    The white lines on the roads of Station Square also bizarrely overlap character shadows in the final, like floating textured planes (or at least, they do in DX. The original probably does it too), so I guess that's more evidence for the first picture being pre-rendered.
     
  8. Nov 13, 2009 #8
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    Yes, but this is a mangled version of Sonic's Speed Highway, with the platform escalator, halfpipe tracks and the Helicopter.
     
  9. Nov 13, 2009 #9
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    Speaking of the prerelease, didn't some of the characters originally look closer to their Sonic R forms during early development?
     
  10. Nov 13, 2009 #10
    Lobotomy

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    Yeah, I saw a VERY old video of Sonic's R model going through a loop and off a ramp like the last one in Emerald Coast, but the area looked like Windy Valley. I'd love to see it again if someone has a youtube link.
     
  11. Nov 13, 2009 #11
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    You wouldn't happen to be thinking of that old Sonic GL video, would you?
     
  12. Nov 13, 2009 #12
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    Yes.
     
  13. Nov 13, 2009 #13
    Andlabs

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    Yes; look at the final's Sky Chase models.
     
  14. Nov 13, 2009 #14
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    There was some artwork from SA1 which was the 3d models but all joints were in chunks, like that faster sonic image above, look at his arms.

    I would think they found a better way to make the model joints better before release, but some stuff still uses that sausage arm sonic, even the end CG photos I think.
     
  15. Nov 14, 2009 #15
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    Nope, but the similarities are scary.
     
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