This might be another good lore question to ask, but I was under the impression that Sonic and his friends were familiar with the Station Square and Mystic Ruins area before the events of Adventure. The English manual says Though the Japanese manual says (using DeepL) I guess you could say he came back home, but it could just mean he return to civilization after his ascetic training, or on a meta level. But I still get the feeling the story implies Station Square became a place they frequented, Angel Island is nearby, Sonic leaves, and Amy and Tails find permanent homes waiting on Sonic to return.
Interesting possibility. There’s not a lot in the game itself to confirm or deny it, but it would resolve one instance of contrivance. Plenty more coincidences though!
Tornado-III uses Roman numerals, and is stored in Spagonia. Tornado-03 uses Arabic numerals and is stored in Shamar. Naturally.
Not in the Japanese version, at least. Can't say for other regions, since they may have used the US Localisation script. But like I said, even the plane itself calls itself the Tornado 03, so...
What I mean is, was it never called that in any place outside of Unleashed's dub? No profile or official material calls it the Tornado-1? We all call it that based just on a weird mistranslation?
According to the fan wiki, the Japanese script and profile for Tails identify the aircraft as Tornado-gou. As far as the English script calling it Tornado-1, I’m not sure it’s necessarily a mistranslation as much as a decision to name it as such made without clear justification.
I checked with my translator buddy. Nothing in the profile manual there. I asked about 'Tornado-gou' and they said that -gou is effectively a vehicle designation, akin to SS on a ship's name.
"Tornado-1" was always such a bizarre name. I've always wondered what was up with it, especially considering that it was labeled as Tornado 03. So it turns out to be just another discrepancy caused by localizations.
So how does this work? We have: - Tornado (I), from Sonic 2 onwards - Tornado II, from Sonic Adventure - Tornado III, from Sonic Adventure 2 up to Shadow - maybe Tornado 02 from Sonic Rivals II - Tornado 03 from Unleashed is that it?
If we know the Tornado III was used from SA2 through Shadow, what need is there for there to be a Tornado 02 between that and Unleashed? Surely it’d be more straightforward for the planes in Shadow and Unleashed to be the same, simply with different renderings of the model number?
Indeed, this is why I always go for the Japanese (or otherwise country of the series' origin) version of things for continuity and/or lore: localisation can and will screw something up somewhere. Yeah, though I assume you mean Sonic Rush Adventure instead of Sonic Rivals 2 there?
"Tornado-1" isn't a bad name for a replica of the OG Tornado (it was kinda shot down right?) I've seen videogame entries with worse number schemes. Consoles too.
Missed this one. Sonic Rush Adventure has what appears to be the Tornado II from Sonic Adventure, suggesting Tails retrieved it from the Mystic Ruins and repaired it. Don't know why he was using it when the Cyclone is a thing, perhaps he was doing maintenance work on it and grabbed the next closest one when they had to rush (heh) things? The problem is the plane itself is labelled "Tornado 03", so the Tornado-1 moniker introduced in the localisation is conflicting with the plane itself.
I don't think the Tornado III/Cyclone was ever shown to have a jet mode. The plane in SRA was red and looked just like the first Tornado. Yeah. It's like the localizers didn't realize it already had a name (as it was never mentioned in dialogue), so they tried to come up with one on their own.
I meant Rivals 2. Is there a new Tornado in Rush Adventure? I don't think Unleashed's Tornado 03 is supposed to be the same Adventure 2's Tornado III.
There's a Tornado in the opening that is very much designed like the Sonic Adventure one. Only, y'know, low polygon count, but I'd say it's the Tornado II myself, but there's no confirmation on that.
By jet mode I meant the X-wing-esque form. Only the Tornado II and 03 were shown to have it AFAIK. The design of the Tornado III's wings shouldn't even allow for an X-wing mode. For comparison, look at the Tornado II's wings: https://info.sonicretro.org/File:SA1T2Normal.PNG https://info.sonicretro.org/File:SA1T2Xwing.PNG And then at the Tornado III's wings: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/s...-46-767.png/revision/latest?cb=20150901181955 Interesting. If Rivals was alluding to a Tornado 02 like you suggest, then the Tornado 03's name makes more sense. That would make it part of a separate line of Tornados whose models are labeled as 0x, by contrast with the roman numeral line. Good thinking.
