Sega: Future Sonic games to be inspired by classic Sonic series

Admittedly for me, I just took it as a neutral statement and decided to chip in with my own two cents. :v:

 

Well, nearly everyone in this community is passively bigoted, but in any case, we should try not to derail the topic.

 

This was the end result from this kind of topic. This isn't anything new.

 

Well, I should probably explain myself when I said that "it's not about going fast or looking cool" what I was thinking of was the boost to win games which the only objective per se was going really really fast. Yeah, there were challenges and so on, but the majority of the game was boosting to go fast. And the part about looking cool I was meaning to those camera stuff or spline movement that takes away control from the player in order for Sonic to make cool shit like go really fast in a loop or corkscrew. Yeah those things have their funside and aren't disgusting or obnoxious as, say, QTEs. Having those things being rewards to good use of momentum was fun as hell, like you said, it's what momentum is all about. That's what I miss the most... pressing down on the keyboard to go faster downhil, hit an enemy while falling really fast and going miles high in the sky and find a whole new path to move through. That's what made me a huge Sonic fan when I was young. Sure the graphics were pretty, the enemies were creative and the level design was awesome but that moment were I finally earned my speed and learned how to play and avoid obstacles, that was the most fun and rewarding thing for me. It wasn't just about reaching the goal post the fastest I can, it was about navigating through the stages without making mistakes, trying to see how much ground could I cover without ever touching it, just bouncing on things or instead trying to finish the stage without losing the flow.

 

You know what else was "inspired by classic Sonic games"? Sonic '06's ending theme.


Sonic '06 2 confirmed.

 

Let the hype begin

 

I have no idea on what you are talking about. :v:

 

You sure know what is the year after this one. Time for a new reboot '16
Just like its predecessor, first Sonic on the said generation of consoles.

 

That feel when I wouldn't mind a Sonic 06 retake, but it's not even worth the effort from the negative around it (read: glitchy mess, human x furry, etc.)

 

Just dropping in to say: Sonic 4 wasn't even all that bad. Sure, if you're expecting identical art, sound, physics to the 16-bit trilogy++ then yeah, I can understand disappointment. But for a layperson, or someone that remembers Sonic but hasn't played since "back in the day" it resembles the Sonic they know - a fast-moving blue erinaceous running loops, collecting rings, defeating Robotnik's traps gadgets. And I suspect those guys were more the target audience than we were.

Thinking about it, there's no reason to believe that's not also the focus this time. I guess I'm calling it: expect something like Sonic 4 in the way it vaguely resembles that we love, but rests deep in our own local Uncanny Valley with all that.

 

Sure Sonic 4 might get people to 'oh I used to play this as a kid/ 2 decades ago, I remember this'.
But you cant present it as better remotely.
Now for Sonic 2 Taxman Edition or perhaps Sonic 2 HD, you can ask genuinly ask people 'for what reason would you pick the original Sonic 2 over this'.
Same for Sonic 3 Complete or BlobVanDam's concept video(if it were realized) vs S3K.

Someone mentioned Ducktales. Well, having the Remastered edition, is there someone that would prefer the original or argue that the original graphics and audio there are better?

Just look at those washed Sonic 4 colours.
Mushroom Hill in Sonic Generations has, just like Sonic 4 Ep 1, less detail on the foreground than the original. What is the excuse, Xbox 360 and 3DS are less powerfull than a console from '88?

 

Forgot to address this bit:

As of this writing, the company has had almost two decades to "get Sonic right in 3D." At what point does the problem with 3D Sonic game issue stop being "Sonic is a difficult franchise to translate to 3D" and the problem is instead "Sega isn't very good at making 3D Sonic games"?

Critically speaking, their best attempt at a 3D Sonic is still their first (Adventure 1...the original release anyway). And that game's problems could be more associated with lack of polish and poor game design descions, rather than Sonic still being a tough nut to crack in the 3D space.

That doesn't even get to the fact that the games that use the Unleashed playstyle they rewrote the series into when Sonic 2006 crashed and burned at the stake into semantics have a hell of a lot of 2D in them...

 

Heard this song and dance before. I'll leave it to the usual, "Put up or shut up."

PR's fun and all, but it's empty unless the company actually delivers.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qW9-s3ITbU

aka the marketing team have said this before, and you should beyond caring what they have to say.

 

You're both wrong. They should render new sprites from the Sonic Generations model. =P


In any case, all that PR guy is saying is "they told me they're making a Sonic game and I have to start doing my thing".

 

I dunno, you could make the argument reversely- how many times until the problem becomes obviously "Sonic doesn't work in 3d" instead of "SEGA are incompetent"? I've started going this way, I legitimately start to think you can't have a good version of Classic Sonic in 3d and the pin ball physics + level design explicitly necessitate having only two axis of movements- much like a real pin ball table, now I think of it :P

 

Look, no one really knows the right direction to steer this franchise in anymore. Too many changes have created too many sects in the fanbase, and overall Sonic fans are not treated with any respect in the general gaming community (hurr durr we're all furries with little to no artistic or creative skill). Wherever it's going, it's going to take a lot more than this lip service to prove critics wrong.

 

The problem is more the quality of the games rather than the direction it's going in.

 

We don't need "classic" inspired Sonic games. We need well designed Sonic games that are fun to play.

I think they're just going to keep drawing from the aesthetics of the classic games and not the design philosophy. And while I definitely think the classics had a better grasp on how a world inhabited by cartoony animals and people should look, that doesn't mean squat if the games aren't fun.