Sonic Lost World (PC / Wii U) Hacking & Resources

Alright so finally got my hands on the Lost World DLC. Couldn't grab the Nights DLC since my friends code for that expired apparently they all expired Oct 2014. And there is no other way from that to get that Nights DLC from what I know unless you get it from buying the eshop version? (what a way to keep content locked away)

Anyways, here is the music from those two levels.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/md96x4dwgl3huja/bgm_zdlc02_streamfiles_ADXs.7z?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ps400rg3rigr0c/bgm_zdlc03_streamfiles_ADXs.7z?dl=0

Also been looking into the models. At first I thought LinkSonic's model was messed up from importing it. Apparently they just messed up the rigging and materials in general. His nose bone pulls on his forehead and the quill bone for his hat is hastily rigged.

And yes, that is now the official name for this Sonic. LinkSonic.






(Leather Teeth anyone?)

I'm going to fix up the rig for this model and post a download mod for it for generations along with Lost World mod as well.

Also surprisingly the models from the Zelda DLC are pretty high poly like the Deku Scrub and the Goron. Looks like higher quality OOT3D/MM3D models.

Spoiler

(Also did a bad import of Link in this. The shield is messed up.)

 

I still haven't quite gotten over the absurdity of the Lost World DLC.

Awesome work though, this. Thanks for sharing.

 

Everyone? Huge news.
The Sonic modding community may have just been saved. Also, Sonic Lost World is gonna become WAY easier to mod.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/329440

 

HedgehogLvl?

Assuming of course that the other Hedgehog Engine games get ported as part of Sega's new initiative.
Though I'd love for the functionality of the editor to expand to include LibS06, even though it sadly probably won't come to PC.

 

That sounds like a good idea. Does Lost World depend on a specific version of 3DS Max, like Generations does?

 

If skeletons/animations are the only things being limited by the 3DS Max version, does that mean that character model/level mods will be possible with maybe even a completely different program?

Also, was there any character physics files found in Lost World like in Generations? The first thing anyone is going to want to do is make Sonic fast.

 

Actually, I just thought about this today. Sonic never goes underwater in this game, and doesn't run on top of it either. Does this game have anything in it's physics files to accommodate underwater levels?

 

Just a heads up, if you really want level editing to take off for this game, your editor needs to come with all of the most useful slopes/shapes packed into prefabs that can be locked together like lego pieces, as well as a boot-to-stage-from-editor mode. We have boot-to-stage in an experimental build of the SADX editor and the difference is unbelievable. Going back would be like losing all but one of your monitors, or going back to drawing with a mouse instead of a tablet.

 

Lost World doesn't have physics config files like Generations. Most of that stuff is hardcoded AFAIK.

I'm pretty sure direct terrain editing isn't a planned feature. I wouldn't bother with it either; there's already tools available like Max and Maya that offer pretty good geometry editing interfaces, so why bother putting a lot of time and energy into making what will end up being a worse version of something that already exists?

 

You misunderstand me, I'm not saying you need to include geometry editing tools. What you should do is provide pre-made, modular geometry that can be moved around and duplicated. The main reason you want this is because moving pieces of the world and adjusting the camera/item layouts are not separate tasks. Switching back and forth from max to glvl because you had to move an island is a huge productivity block. You want to be able to move/rotate and island and all the item/camera items that go along with it. Think something like the portal 2 editor. Also, I don't know if you've noticed this but there aren't many people in this community that do 3d modeling.

 

GLVL in the Repo was able to let you move Meshes it loaded. Wasn't very convenient though.

There are people in this community that can 3d model but don't know how to use these tools in GLVL to do something with it. Hence the guy who made Music Plant didn't really get into GLVL cause of the curve of learning all the stuff. I'm sure we can model some basic geometry for people to use. Not sure it would be for GLVL though maybe just importable for max.

I mean I'd be down for modeling geometry stuff like that for people to use. I just don't know if Dario would bother implementing that. (In the end though it basically would become Sonic Dash like with 3d tilesets)

 

I'm also willing to make models for level designers to use but I'm not sure how many people are interested in the first place. Anyway, custom levels are arguably the most important type of mod for Sonic games and if we want custom levels to exist we'll need it as painless as possible. Dario's unfinished GLVL was a giant step in the right direction: The interface was cleaner, fbx support so people can use programs other than Max, etc. We really just need a complete version of that.

 

Adding to the idea, it would be nice to have clean, collision-only building blocks for quickly prototyping level designs and building art from in case you have enough 3D modeling knowledge.

 

So Lost World PC's formats are largely identical to the Wii U formats. The main difference is endianness - most of the files are little endian on PC vs big endian on Wii U (they didn't just leave everything big endian this time like they did with Generations). There's also a difference in how files are organized in the pac format, which Dario and Zoney are looking into. Overall it probably won't be very hard to get the tools running with the PC version.

Since Dario's been busy lately, I might try to update my Lost World fork of GLvl to work on PC, if I have time. In the meantime, I just updated my path2 importer/exporter Maxscripts, so those should now work with both PC and Wii U files. https://github.com/parax0/libgens-sonicglvl-lostworld/tree/master/scripts

 

Oh, that's neat to know. Speaking of which, any chance of extracting the sound (not music) files to wav yet?

 

No idea, don't know anything about the sound formats. I think Zoney told me the audio files are now HCA instead of DSP, so probably.