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I’d be happy with Sonic Jam’s physics personally.

also ps. I’d still really like to see the early sonic adventure prototypes , ( if you don’t want to see them if they drop someday, than close your eyes) going by what’s been done with Jam and looking at them early Renders, and perhaps using the Nights engine, Adventure might have been something completely different than what we seen on Dreamcast. Who wouldn’t want to see that, or play it for that matter?

 

https://sonicthehedgehog.tumblr.com...hank-you-all-so-much-for-your-generosity-this

The concept art is now on the official Sonic tumblr. Not sure what the trick is to download the images in the best quality possible.

EDIT: Also on Twitter: https://xcancel.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1328776177893351425

 

Neither sites are ideal for hosting images, but Twitter compresses them less. So mirror from there.

 

Are you TRYING to misunderstand what I'm saying? There's a difference between "I wanna see prototypes of this game" and "I want a game, released on hardware that couldn't really handle what the devs were trying to do, released on even weaker hardware". If you meant "I hope we find those prototypes someday", you should have said so, because it sounded like you said "They should have released Sonic Adventure on the Saturn instead of moving development to the Dreamcast".

 

So the emerald shrine was originally going to be underground like in S3K. Just thought it would be fun to do some visual comparisons with the HPZ level art:

Spoiler

 

On Chrome, open the image, right-click on it and select "Inspect".
You'll enter "Developer's Tools" section. From there, you can get to the highest-sized version on the image.

But, as a freebie...


JUST. AMAZINGLY. BEAUTIFUL. So much potential on these renders.
Would love to see a running prototype of this. If one actually ever existed, that is.
As far as it's known, everything they had at the time got compiled into JAM's Sonic World.

 

I adore the color saturation. and while I know it's not intentional, I also really like the juxtaposition of the extremely bright colors and low-poly models with the real photographs in the background (the ice cap one!)

 

I'm not sure it's ice it looks like a crystal cavern in a canyon which would be an awesome trope. And agreed I love this style. This is like Classic Sonic in 3d

 

I was speaking in the future tense in my initial post btw. Sorry if it didn’t seem that way.

 

Any of you guys know what this is? XD
I do!

 

https://xcancel.com/SEGAForever/status/1329092005809500160?s=09

It's artwork drawn by Richard Elson of Sonic the Comic fame to commemorate Sonic R's anniversary. It's weird looking at this. It's like an alternate reality where Sonic the Comic was mostly on model (like Tails, Robotnik, and Knuckles look perfect here)

 

I'd love to see an animated short with that art style.

 

I guess no one wants to take a crack at it than,,,?

Ok so here goes!
Several months back i got yet another build of Xtreme from Jollyroger, (Sonic Boom editor V004-006), Its running on NV1 and showcases the lighting effects that Xtreme had early on,
Such effects were never shown again in the Fisheye type engine. (not to say they were stripped out completely, perhaps just not used)
For Xtreme, This build is revolutionary, not only because of the lighting, but it showcases a lot of other unseen visual tricks that one would never have associated with Ofer Alon's version of Xtreme engine back in 1996.
In the coming months I'll be posting videos for multiple unseen levels whenever I get the chance to record them.

 

Hoshino posted a higher resolution version of the Tails Doll render the other day. I guess Elson must have gotten a decent sized version of Sonic Team's Metal Knuckles render, because he got the chest vent on Metal Knuckles right (instead of the crescent moon on Traveller's Tales' lower-poly in-game model).

The SonictheComicUK Twitter account reached out to Richard Elson for commentary: https://xcancel.com/SonictheComicUK/status/1329117703274188806

 

That's incredible and I'd looove to see videos. Looking forward to it.

 

Mate, don't you think this deserves it's own thread? Or at least resurrect one of the old X-treme ones. It's great news! Looking forward to seeing what you've got whenever you get the chance.

 

I squealed when I saw this. Made me so happy! I love Elson and STC.

 

Yeah I suppose when the videos are done I can upload them to a new thread.

 

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2020/07/7-sonic-the-hedgehog-prototypes-you-were-never-meant-to-play/

I just found this article. It name-drops Retro, and needless to say I don't think it'd exist if we didn't care about this stuff. Let's keep up the good work, people!